November 27, 2013: Loss, and the definition of said word.

[Nerre]

Maybe he did it offpanel before he threw the bolt.
If I would be his GM, I would have granted him some XP for all the roleplaying while being trapped. Who knows, maybe he is already level 6 now = 1 full level of each class. After all he was in the large battle in the city when they escaped, even if it was mostly passive and being dragged along by the others.

[Krulle]

Have you ever tried an atlatl?. It is the most astonishing thing, the difference in speed is quite frightening, it looks so dangerous, the spear zonking off into the distance.

Alas, no.
In Europe, the Maori tools and skills are rather unknown.
After the posting of this I'll shuffle over to SomeSearchEngine(R) to find pages to read up on it.

Edit: Didn't know the term, but I know the group of devices.... Indeed, they are remarkable in efficiency. Although I've never seen one being used, outside of youtube videos.
It might well be, that these things are considered to dangerous in Europe and maybe even forbidden in some states. I know that they are not allowed to be used during hunting.

Quick Fumbles - declare your dodge !

HAHAHAHAHA! Dang, why didn't I think of the most memorable remark in this thread?
Slap!

[Madfox11]

Have you ever tried an atlatl?. It is the most astonishing thing, the difference in speed is quite frightening, it looks so dangerous, the spear zonking off into the distance.

Alas, no.
In Europe, the Maori tools and skills are rather unknown.
After the posting of this I'll shuffle over to SomeSearchEngine(R) to find pages to read up on it.

Edit: Didn't know the term, but I know the group of devices.... Indeed, they are remarkable in efficiency. Although I've never seen one being used, outside of youtube videos.
It might well be, that these things are considered to dangerous in Europe and maybe even forbidden in some states. I know that they are not allowed to be used during hunting.

I was just going to say, atlatl is not Maori specific Europeans used them as well, although mostly with javelin throwing. It is just that Europeans stopped throwing javelins and spears a lot longer ago than Maori's. Guns are after all much more efficient ranged weapons

[Nerre]

Do you know that feeling? You write a post, and then it totally gets ignored cause somebody changes the topic and most people do not read more than the last few posts.
How about putting your topic in another thread, for examples in the discussion forum. "Tribal weapon discussion" for example.

[Krulle]

I read your post, and while I found the theories consistent with what we know, its not new and has already been discussed. I saw no need to comment on them,even after you specifically asked for comments.

And that was the end of the discussion for me anyway. Throwing spears is more efficient than throwing arrows.

[St.Rider]

Do you know that feeling? You write a post, and then it totally gets ignored cause somebody changes the topic and most people do not read more than the last few posts.
How about putting your topic in another thread, for examples in the discussion forum. "Tribal weapon discussion" for example.

Do you mean

Who knows, maybe he is already level 6 now = 1 full level of each class.

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Well, he'd have to be level 11 to get a full level of each class. And I find that... unlikely.

[Nerre]

Oh, I was thinking maybe in a old ruleset, still playing in 2.0. I just did not get 11 classes when counting in my head. 11 Classes? I thought it were only around 6, which is why I wrote 6. Sorry. Yes, 11 is far to high.

[Madfox11]

Oh, I was thinking maybe in a old ruleset, still playing in 2.0. I just did not get 11 classes when counting in my head. 11 Classes? I thought it were only around 6, which is why I wrote 6. Sorry. Yes, 11 is far to high.

Druid, Fighter, wizard, rogue, sorcerer, bard, monk, cleric, paladin and ranger are the basic classes I can remember. That would be 10. Which basic class am I missing? You could of course add a lot of additional classes that have been released: artificer, psion, psychic warriors, mind blade, and a lot of others... in other words even that number 11 is not complete

[DrinksTooMuchCoffee]

Barbarian. There's some alignment problems but they're small in comparison to leveling eleven classes at once.

[RedwoodElf]

I was just going to say, atlatl is not Maori specific Europeans used them as well, although mostly with javelin throwing. It is just that Europeans stopped throwing javelins and spears a lot longer ago than Maori's. Guns are after all much more efficient ranged weapons

So is a crossbow, which came much earlier than guns. And the Longbow. And the Shortbow. And slings, come to think of it. Throwing a spear is the final resort because...this. (What Kin says in the first panel, not the rest of the page)

[WhispersToSquirrels]

Oh, I was thinking maybe in a old ruleset, still playing in 2.0. I just did not get 11 classes when counting in my head. 11 Classes? I thought it were only around 6, which is why I wrote 6. Sorry. Yes, 11 is far to high.

Bah! You kids and all your "classes". In *my* day, we had fighter, magic-user, cleric, and thief. And we liked it!

[AntMac]

I was just going to say, atlatl is not Maori specific Europeans used them as well, although mostly with javelin throwing. It is just that Europeans stopped throwing javelins and spears a lot longer ago than Maori's. Guns are after all much more efficient ranged weapons

Oh, no, I didn't use the Maori term, any more than I would say Rongoaa to you when I was referring to medicine. Aside from anything else, Maori has so many synonyms it is crazy, the reason to choose one rather than another is lost in the past now, I feel. The only Maori words it would be appropriate to use in English are the loan ones, like Tapu and Mana and names maybe?.

And yeah, your point about the guns is exactly why we don't got no old examples of the various spear throwers or, say, training manuals transcribed as matters of interest from our past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musket_Wars

All them old fellas that were dab hands at position defence with the spear throwing whips?. They got ate, and their spear thrower rotted in the grass, the skill they were going to pass onto their children?. Never did, cause all the kiddies got ate too.
Maybe a lifetime later people said "Oh, we used to throw spears with whips, well, not spears, darts really" and someone asked them to show them. This person would have been a child while the wars went on, without the actual experience of more than a child's training, so we don't know all the special techniques any ability holds for its true exponents.

The atlatl I used as an adult wasn't a Maori one anyway, it was an Australian one. And, (re comic ) its real strength is the staggering length of the spear it throws, at least seven feet of thin spear. That allows the inertia of the length of the spear to help keep it flying straight, which a short crossbow bolt, thrown by hand, would be the opposite of, imeo.

[BuildsLegos]

Quick Fumbles - declare your dodge !

HAHAHAHA, plus one, well done, you certainly win this internet.

No. I did.

This is all the more reason for my prediction to come true, even though I'd be off by a page.

[BuildsLegos]

Do you know that feeling? You write a post, and then it totally gets ignored cause somebody changes the topic and most people do not read more than the last few posts.
How about putting your topic in another thread, for examples in the discussion forum. "Tribal weapon discussion" for example.

Or worse, when someone repeats what you said and only they get credit.

[AntMac]

Do you know that feeling? You write a post, and then it totally gets ignored cause somebody changes the topic and most people do not read more than the last few posts.
How about putting your topic in another thread, for examples in the discussion forum. "Tribal weapon discussion" for example.

Or worse, when someone repeats what you said and only they get credit.

Well, dude, I have to guess he, like I, probably didn't click on your link. I saw your post, but I didn't get around to clicking on the link, people have so many links in their screens sometimes that one gets reluctant to go down the rabbit holes. However, fair go, your post made the joke first. There, honour satisfied, credit disbursed.

And I guess I am guilty of drawing a deep bow ( groan ) by talking about atlatls though it seemed a natural digression to talk about what I know of throwing things like darts or bolts. I read your posts for entertainment sake you know, and thought the discussion was entertaining.

[Tofu]

Quick Fumbles - declare your dodge !

HAHAHAHA, plus one, well done, you certainly win this internet.

No. I did.

This is all the more reason for my prediction to come true, even though I'd be off by a page.

You did too. well thunk sir! Do you want your internetz in chocolate or vanilla?

[BuildsLegos]

Well if you put it like that, wouldn't it be poisonous, or do you filter it? And what has Big Ears been doing for the past page and a half?

[Tofu]

I don't know Mr BuildsLegos, i presumed the small prize i received would be easily freshened up with the addition of flavors, chocolate is popular, and that it's easily able to be enjoyed. Am happy to share ;0 I am fairly sure that the internet is, in itself, poisonous and death by over-indulgence will eventually happen to us all ... eat up, we all will die hunched over our screen no matter what we do.

On another note, relating to the web comic - hasn't the color scheme and finished appearance of the characters gotten really really good lately! The page fairly sings with color, history and meaningful activity. While MinMax and Complains have been apart for only a few weeks game-world time, they have had massive development of their own characters and experiences.

[Gryphonic]

Yes! I said it a page or two ago and it's even more true now - I love watching the art develop from flat coloring to fully shaded and with backgrounds. This page and http://www.goblinscomic.org/11062013/ are perhaps my favorites off hand. Bravo THunt!

[wertsir]

It just occurred to me that kore is going to be killed by forgath using Minmax's axe of racism.

[BuildsLegos]

You know what, you keep thinking that. Yesssssss...

[AntMac]

I don't know Mr BuildsLegos, i presumed the small prize i received would be easily freshened up with the addition of flavors, chocolate is popular, and that it's easily able to be enjoyed. Am happy to share ;0 I am fairly sure that the internet is, in itself, poisonous and death by over-indulgence will eventually happen to us all ... eat up, we all will die hunched over our screen no matter what we do.

Oii !. I comes 'ere for entertainments in communal-diary form, not dire intimations of mortality, I thanks thee. If I want to contemplate my accumulated interweb poisoning, Mr Gates has kindly given me an app for that.

Yes! I said it a page or two ago and it's even more true now - I love watching the art develop from flat coloring to fully shaded and with backgrounds. This page and http://www.goblinscomic.org/11062013/ are perhaps my favorites off hand. Bravo THunt!

I second your bravo. Now, if only we could expedite production somehow . . .

[Kore]

Never underestimate the power of seeds of evil to corrupt others.

For example:

Complains puts on belt of gender change.

Minmax: Wow! If I could find one non monster thing about you I wouldn't have to kill you. Do you want a birthday present?

[BuildsLegos]

As a paladin, Kore is supposed to see the good & evil in all beings, but can he see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch or how the fact that Minmax falls in love with only smart & pretty girls?

(I'm trying to joke that Complains of Girly Names wouldn't be his type.)

[Glemp]

Depending on how Kore defines Evil, he may go against Minmax because MM's motivation is revenge, a morally 'impure' reason to adventure (hint: there is only one adventurer who has a pure reason; his name begins with a 'K' and ends with 'mineral-containing rock').