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WearsHats wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:37 pm Well, Kin seems to be holding her own for now. I hadn't thought of just cutting through the dungeon wall like a Gordion Knit, but Minmax is pretty oblivious to the way things are supposed to work.

https://goblinscomic.com/comic/page-2-2020

Nina wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:30 am Hi Everyone,
Generic, you are right! That is Oblivious, in the last panel, and the door seems to be cracking. Looks like Minmax may get thru!

Hugs, Nina.

GathersIngredients wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:37 am Awww, we didn't get to see the glimpse of the future, where he pulled oblivious from.

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Jarednc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:35 am I think Min max is going to use oblivious to cut open the door

Silfar wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:04 pm Can we just stop for a moment and appreciate that awesome artwork? Both Drawing and the colouring?! Holy crap guys / ladies!

Generic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:58 am I've given up on materials in this universe by now though. The door could hold or just as well shatter into a million pieces. I lack the reference, apart from things generally being more brittle than expected.

It seems to be rather thick. And well engineered enough not to release the balls when the door swung shut. It's also flush with the wall. I would imagine whoever made it would be able to have it hold for a few rounds against a fighter with levels countable on one hand. (forgot what level he is, 5th or in that ball plank).

Starling wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:49 am Kin is cut but she isn't bleeding despite cuts being pretty deep. Even small cuts start to bleed profusely. It's either an artistic mistake or Kin became undead at some point.

Derkins wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:23 pm

Generic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:58 am I've given up on materials in this universe by now though. The door could hold or just as well shatter into a million pieces. I lack the reference, apart from things generally being more brittle than expected.

It seems to be rather thick. And well engineered enough not to release the balls when the door swung shut. It's also flush with the wall. I would imagine whoever made it would be able to have it hold for a few rounds against a fighter with levels countable on one hand. (forgot what level he is, 5th or in that ball plank).

It's D&D, so it will be a strength contest. The door versus Minimax's strength rating - which we know is absurdly high for a human. Also, in D&D 1 foot of stone is not THAT hard. There is a spell that creates a stone wall and it has it's own armor class, so if enemies attack it enough, it will break. So, yes, a strong creature can break it with enough force and good rolls. Minimax is good at good rolls when it comes to physical feats. I wouldn't at all count out his ability to smash through, especially with powerful magic items in hand.

Jarednc wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:51 pm As I remember, oblivious can cut through anything without any physics causing resistance.

Silfar wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:04 pm Can we just stop for a moment and appreciate that awesome artwork? Both Drawing and the colouring?! Holy crap guys / ladies!

Starling wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:49 am Kin is cut but she isn't bleeding despite cuts being pretty deep. Even small cuts start to bleed profusely. It's either an artistic mistake or Kin became undead at some point.

Derkins wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:25 pm

Starling wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:49 am Kin is cut but she isn't bleeding despite cuts being pretty deep. Even small cuts start to bleed profusely. It's either an artistic mistake or Kin became undead at some point.

They're just scratches. She has leveled up so her armor class is higher, and she may easily have magic armor (like stone skin).

Morgaln wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:20 am

Derkins wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:25 pm

Starling wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:49 am Kin is cut but she isn't bleeding despite cuts being pretty deep. Even small cuts start to bleed profusely. It's either an artistic mistake or Kin became undead at some point.

They're just scratches. She has leveled up so her armor class is higher, and she may easily have magic armor (like stone skin).

Armor class in D&D 3.0 is completely independent from level, unless your class provides a level-based bonus (wizard doesn't). Also, if you get a scratch, you're already beyond the point where armor class helps; that is where hit points come into play.

Generic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:25 pm

Morgaln wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:20 am

Derkins wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:25 pm


They're just scratches. She has leveled up so her armor class is higher, and she may easily have magic armor (like stone skin).

Armor class in D&D 3.0 is completely independent from level, unless your class provides a level-based bonus (wizard doesn't). Also, if you get a scratch, you're already beyond the point where armor class helps; that is where hit points come into play.

You forgot to factor in the damage resistance from mage armour.

Morgaln wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:50 pm

Generic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:25 pm

Morgaln wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:20 am

Armor class in D&D 3.0 is completely independent from level, unless your class provides a level-based bonus (wizard doesn't). Also, if you get a scratch, you're already beyond the point where armor class helps; that is where hit points come into play.

You forgot to factor in the damage resistance from mage armour.

I'll let Big Ears answer that one:

https://goblinscomic.com/comic/11212005

Nina wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:25 am

Starling wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:49 am Kin is cut but she isn't bleeding despite cuts being pretty deep. Even small cuts start to bleed profusely. It's either an artistic mistake or Kin became undead at some point.

Does anyone remember Kin's blood's color? Psionic MinMax squished her tail, and it was green, but that may have been psionics.

Hugs, Nina

Jarednc wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:54 am

Jarednc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:35 am I think Min max is going to use oblivious to cut open the door

Called it.

Elli said her oblivious was her favorite item in the universe.

Generic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:59 am

Jarednc wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:51 pm As I remember, oblivious can cut through anything without any physics causing resistance.

Oh dear. Ill defined magic. Well, in that case I guess this scene don't have much tension anymore. Surprised they bothered with the puzzle door to enter the dungeon. I just remember that nothing could affect or move the sword, aside from MinMax. I must have forgotten the "cut through anything" part. It'll come down to MinMax remembering he can do that, I guess.

Did not Complains cross blades with oblivious at one point? How did his weapon survive that?

As for the art. The first two frames has a nice movement to it. Her wounds confuses me, and she has obvious problems with her ribcage in panel 2. I have no idea where the light in the scene is coming from in panel 1, or why it has gotten lighter. I have no idea how much urgency the hellbleed frame is portraying. I think the last frames display her crusing some bugs in a feat of strenght? If it's her getting swamped by them, I think a pullaway would have established that better.

I think art is as it usually is. Elli usually pays a lot of attention to the combat I think.

speakslittle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:41 pm I know they're not the samesies. but her cut looks like his. Similar positioning. Hers is more angled, and i think starts closer to the corner of the eye. But it still seems like a neat visual cue.