Trinity Isles OOC

[Natrivv]

Though that said Ninja + Warper would make a pretty cool magic ninja concept.
Because Warpers can teleport and do other ninja-esque things

[Dlover]

It would be a pretty badass concept for the build. No clue if it would be a good pairing, but who cares. I literally have a character plan for a Skirmisher/Steelheart/Dancer/Ninja, just because it sounded like a terrible but fun idea.

[Natrivv]

Oh, and for the people who don't read other groups updates. Gayle is actually Irene's mother.

[M0rtimer]

Did a real quick map for the other team now, too

[Arch Lich Burns]

Just to let you know, I will not be able to acess the book or map for...I think at least a week? (and not even sure if I can acess map since last time I checked there was an error)

[M0rtimer]

Right Dlover, you're right about the aura message. Magnus would just have responded he knows, he's got aura too

Also here's something nobody asked for, Matthias's theme

[Dlover]

Should've guessed that, really. He's the ultimate creator god, as far I can tell, or at most one step down. He's probably got pretty much everything.

Man, that song is really well made to have an effect of being just a little unsettling to listen to.

... Actually, thinking of my first note here, Arceus is the only one above both Regigigas and Giratina by standard Pokemon lore, right? If he exists, is he maybe the one mentioned in the Void, that gave the two brothers power?

[SuperVaderMan]

Arceus and Giratina are the brothers, the Great Mind is the collective unown subconscious

[M0rtimer]

I'll be taking a substitute action for Bruce btw. Though with Christmas getting near, things might slow down a bit until that clears, I figure a bunch of people will be having difficulty posting during this time of the year.

...Can't believe we've gone through another year. Are you guys gonna force me to give you more Christmas gifts?

[SuperVaderMan]

I had ideas if you want suggestions

[Dlover]

Make the gift for Alex the one thing he's been trying to get for so many years: Death.

[Arch Lich Burns]

I have an idea that may be a bit complicated, but I can see it kinda working....espessially sonce there are now somewhat cannon, I was thinking maybe something like build a bear, but with pokemon.

Player can choose:
Body type
Head type
Tail(s) type
Arm type (or arms if one wants something more monsterous)
Leg(s) type
1st Pokemon typing

GM chooses
2nd pokemon typing (if any)
Moves that can be learned and when
Abilities
Stats (all pokemon built will hsve same stat total; stats cannot be less than a cerian number and cannot be higher than a certian number)
Movement: similar to each other, all must have same movement speed total
Jump: same as each other
Capabilities

[Dlover]

That sounds... Like a lot of effort.

[M0rtimer]

If you really got ideas, throw them at me I suppose. Just know I'm probably going to deny all of them, because at this point you guys are going to get more power from accumulating Christmas presents than from actually playing the game

The "build a bear" thing is a no at least. Too much work. Where would those pokemon even suddenly come from..?

...Here's an idea I got I suppose that doesn't actually involve getting power: How about you all submit a question for this so-called "Great Mind", and I'll make sure that it gets to him? You should just make sure the questions are either mostly fluff or wouldn't make for major spoilers. Because I know him, and if you do that, he's probably just going to give a cryptic non-answer.

[Dusk9]

The build-a-mon idea sounds cool as just a mini-game. Frankenstein Pokemon!

[SuperVaderMan]

That's the thing, I was purposely NOT going to suggest anything that'd make our characters stronger

Rather, I'd like to suggest catching some of our pokemon up to our current power level. A lot of our pokemon are kinda getting left in the dust as our core teams rocket ahead in levels, and grinding up our weak guys has always been a concern. So what if the gift this time is just to auto-level one or two of our pokemon up to 30-35? Skip the grind and let us play with more of our pokemon sooner.

So something like:

- Level two pokemon up to 30
or
- Level one pokemon up to 35

And any evolution requirements that are met as a result happen automatically too.


Edit: maybe in Bruce's case he might get one of his other wishlist pokemon? Since all of his current pokemon are already in that range

[Arch Lich Burns]

If you really got ideas, throw them at me I suppose. Just know I'm probably going to deny all of them, because at this point you guys are going to get more power from accumulating Christmas presents than from actually playing the game

The "build a bear" thing is a no at least. Too much work. Where would those pokemon even suddenly come from?

Okay, then how about choosing only head and body or fusion mons? First typing comes from body and second from head?


As to where they came from....well the same place as the new fossil mons. Or the void/where necromzma lives

[Dlover]

Typing alone doesn't help much unfortunately, Burns. There's a lot of work with assigning movesets and capabilities and stats and abilities, and making sure everything is all balanced. It's a lot of work.

[Natrivv]

Hmm, maybe a redo on one of our choices for a character sheet? Though that is technically buffing us.

Festive Delibird hat that none of our characters can take off for an undetermined length of time?

[Dlover]

Oh god not the delibirds

I don't think I have anything to change for Alex, since Mort's already let me do some reworks to make him not be the ultimate garbage character, but I wouldn't have anything against letting others have that.

[M0rtimer]

Technically, leveling up pokemon is still a "character" increase. Though in this instance I can see it being one made more out of convenience than anything else

As for reworking stuff, that's already something you can do, really. I've had multiple of you people do some rework before if you think it'd just better suit your character. Of course, it's hard to justify doing that for a complete character overhaul, but some minor stuff I'll probably generally agree with changing. Even then, at most, you can already do this RAW by spending misc exp.

Still waiting for that substite action for Bruce btw

[Dusk9]

I'm not really sure what Bruce himself can do, but the Crobat could just Bite the Gengar again?

[Dlover]

We can do that, yeah, but misc exp is rare enough and it's hard enough to gain levels that it's too valuable of a resource to spend.
Especially important when half of us play characters who only capture pokemon if we think at the time that we'll use them, and don't just capture everything, so we get a lot less DEXP.

[Dusk9]

We can do that, yeah, but misc exp is rare enough and it's hard enough to gain levels that it's too valuable of a resource to spend.
Especially important when half of us play characters who only capture pokemon if we think at the time that we'll use them, and don't just capture everything, so we get a lot less DEXP.

Actually, this brings up something I've been thinking for a while. I don't think misc/Pokedex exp is a very good mechanic. It's hard as hell to balance fairly, adds yet another level of bookkeeping (on top of managing exp/Moves/Abilities for 10+ Pokemon), and rewards certain character types more than others.

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Currently, we've got two players at Lv13, three at Lv12, and two at Lv11 (not including Drake). And Sam was even further behind, before he made his new character to catch back up.

Alex/Irene (Lv11) have less than 30 misc + Pokedex exp, while everyone else is at over 40 - purely because they've caught fewer Pokemon/been involved in fewer events that reward misc exp. Sure, Natrivv was out of the game for a little while, however Dlover hasn't been any less active than the rest of us. But because there aren't even any set rules for earning misc exp, they can't do anything to close the difference beyond catching/evolving more Pokemon.

Which highlights the other problem - players who catch a lot of high-level wild Pokemon and/or power-level their Pokemon to evolve them are getting double the reward. Not only do they get more powerful Pokemon/Moves, but they also get exp that levels their character. The rewards are weighted far too heavily towards wild battling, so you get this chain of "battle more often" -> "catch more Pokemon" -> "levelup/evolve more Pokemon" -> "more misc exp" -> "more character levels". So while the characters who focus more on roleplay/NPC interaction can maybe get some misc exp, a character who focuses on combat/capture can guarantee;
1) More powerful Pokemon.
2) More diverse Pokemon teams.
3) More misc exp.

To be clear, I'm not saying the battle-focused character is bad to do this. Catching/battling Pokemon is the main focus of the game. It's just that the rewards are inherently imbalanced.

And to expand on the issue of evolution giving misc exp, I've actually found myself pumping exp into specific Pokemon just so I could evolve them and get an extra character level. Meanwhile, players who happen to mainly have single-evo Pokemon (e.g. Irene) can't do that. And underdog Pokemon have the same issue. I'm permanently losing 2 misc exp by not evolving my Ferroseed or Joltik.

That ended up being a bit of a long tangent, but there we go

[Dusk9]

@Mort: Fern is a still Ferroseed, not a Ferrothorn. Just so you know for the map