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Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:48 am
by SuperVaderMan
Well Veska also has Natural Explorer down here. Does the double proficiency bonus to Perception not count for Passive Perception?

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:55 am
by SuperVaderMan
Double post: Veska should currently have the same Passive Perception as Vatro
Page 175, Passive Checks wrote:Here’s how to determine a character’s total for a passive check:

10 + all modifiers that normally apply to the check
So Veska should be able to add her Natural Explorer bonus, resulting in a Passive Perception of 16

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:58 am
by Dusk9
Yep, Theis got it :P

I feel this is a good time to mention that the average Kobold has a Passive Perception of 8. And Barusk is only slightly better than average :lol:

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:17 am
by SuperVaderMan
So would Veska see the thing in the water with her 16 passive perception, too? That'll have a big effect on what she does :shifty:

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:44 am
by Dusk9
Oh right, forgot Natural Explorer doubles your Passive Perception bonus too. In that case sure, you notice it on the edge of your vision. You don't get as clear a look as Vatro does though.

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:58 am
by M0rtimer
Gonna wait to see if the crawler Veska attacked is dead before my action

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:59 am
by Dusk9
Good news! They're both still alive, so you have plenty of choices :D

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:21 am
by SuperVaderMan
Reminder that Kobolds have Pack Tactics, Dusk. They get Advantage with Veska and Barusk next to the underwater one, and with Uragh next to the one he's attacking, or at least cancel out Disadvantage if they have any.

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:30 am
by Dusk9
Good point, edited the update

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:44 pm
by Theis2
Uragh is blocking the way to the one crawler right? Can I shoot past it without hitting Uragh?

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:57 pm
by SuperVaderMan
I don't believe there's a penalty, since the Crawler is a Large creature and Uragh is only Medium.

If Crawlers were Medium creatures it would likely have 1/2 cover, as per the Cover rules:
Page 196, Cover wrote:A target with half cover has a +2 bonus to AC and
Dexterity saving throws. A target has half cover if an
obstacle blocks at least half of its body. The obstacle
might be a low wall, a large piece of furniture, a narrow
tree trunk, or a creature, whether that creature is an
enemy or a friend.

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:03 pm
by thinkslogically
I would count that as the monster having half cover because Uragh's in the way. In the abstraction that is D&D battle mechanics, a medium creature takes up basically a 5x5 foot space; a large one takes up 10x10, so from a particular side, the medium creature would block half of the large one. Small creatures also take up a 5x5 foot space, so would provide the same cover mechanically as a medium one, even though that arguably makes no sense at all. I guess it's a simplification for these sorts of mechanics :lol:

EDIT: Source is here - http://dnd.wizards.com/products/tabletop/dm-basic-rules

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:17 am
by Dusk9
Yeah, I'm going to say it was half-cover. Uragh is a big boy :P

(Also these tunnels are only 5ft wide, so he's technically taking up the entire space.)

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:22 am
by SuperVaderMan
What roll would it be to start searching for Rezak's boots? Perception? Survival, maybe?

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:23 am
by Dusk9
Hmm....both. Survival to track down the nest, Perception to find them.

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:09 am
by Dusk9
@Spider: The streets are pretty quiet now, but there are still people heading home. Plus the occasional group of partiers moving between pubs.

Roll Performance to blend in, and Insight to guess where they're going so you can duck ahead.

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:11 pm
by Dusk9
Sorry, I don't quite understand - what are you writing on the paper, Thinks?

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:23 pm
by thinkslogically
The full address that the elf went into (no. 11 I think). Jax is knocking on number 9 tho.

This is another stupid plan.

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:30 pm
by Dusk9
Ah, okay then. Just as a reminder though, since I realise it's getting pretty confusing;

- Eris was the one at the bank, and went into No.11
- "Erin" is the name Barric gave, and he said they live at No.9
- No.9 had movement inside it, while No.11 seemed empty. Both were lit by candlelight.

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:39 pm
by thinkslogically
...oh. this is confusing! Ok, he'll go to number 11 and knock, and write 9 on the paper.

It really is the stupidest plan.

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:30 am
by Dusk9
Since Vatro doesn't technically know Veska is a Kobold yet, can I have an Insight check for figuring it out? He already felt something scaly the previous night, and now knows she can speak Kobold/Draconic. And apparently has a weird relationship with the sewer Kobolds?

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:43 am
by Theis2
Not too hard to figure out? She's been talking about the kobolds all this time and Uragh could have mentioned it while he got Vatro :p

Vatro insight: 1D20+3 = [13]+3 = 16

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:45 am
by M0rtimer
He could have, but then he might not have joined... He needs to suffer like he did. :P

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:54 am
by Dusk9
Okay yeah. Vatro doesn't know for sure, but he's got a pretty good idea what Veska is hiding.

Re: The Heist - OOC

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:00 am
by SuperVaderMan
So how do you handle group stealth Dusk? I know on page 175 there's a bit on Group Checks, where if at least half of the group succeeds then they all do.

I figure I'd ask since Veska is entirely incapable of breaking 15 :roll: