Elvors wrote:LooksAtYouFunny wrote:Elvors wrote:I'm not questioning their moral compass. I'm questioning their self-image - whether they'd still find it a Good Thing if the situation arose in reality.
The usual outcome of such situtions is that 95% have a problem with actually carrying it through. And you can't predict who's going to be in the 5% group.
sadly you'r number is wrong...werry wrong indeed.... try that 65% would go as fare as risking killing the other, and thats when even having nothing against him...
Milgram experiment
Look closer: Most would have stopped on their own. They needed to be goaded ahead by the perceived authority figure.
He has a point though. If you look closer yourself, you'll see that the experiment was repeated numerous times since with increasingly modern ethical standards applied, and similar results across the board... even after watching other participants refuse to continue and walk away.
The fallacy here isn't that they had to be goaded, it's the difference between compelled behavior and personal choice. Compelled behavior is something someone else influences you towards, personal choice is something undertaken yourself. While manipulation can make it difficult to tell the difference in some cases, I think it's fair to say that GS wasn't acting on anyone else's orders when he did what he did. Likewise, neither was TortureMax.