Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

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Poll: Both Kin and Minmax dying, or both surviving?

Both die
10
20%
Both live
31
61%
Derp
10
20%
 
Total votes: 51

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Sushulana » Sun May 12, 2013 1:20 pm

thinkslogically wrote:I'd go with kin surviving, since that would imply that they win the maze. Since Psymax is not from their reality and the majority of other realities are evil, leaving him to destroy the leftover teams would statistically be a win for the forces of good. Also, they'll never have to meet him again, so that would be a win.
Agreed, we could really use a good win right about now.

And, seeing Kin come out of this with legs would be interesting and perhaps the wildest complication so far ... gives us something long-term to discus besides a psychotic Dwarf that breaks all the rules.

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by RocketScientist » Sun May 12, 2013 7:26 pm

Who gets Psimax?
I don't understand.
Who kills Psionic Minmax? At the end, somebody's got to do it! Is it Forgath? Who?
Nobody. Nobody kills him. He lives.
You mean he wins? Jesus, Thunt, why did you write this thing for?
You know, you've been very sick, and you're taking this story very seriously. I think we'd better stop now.
No, I'm ok. I'm ok. Sit down. I'm all right.


I want Psimax to live... to the pain. >:D

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by SamWiser » Sun May 12, 2013 7:59 pm

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Zigit » Sun May 12, 2013 9:14 pm

Yes, to the pain. Dying is too good for him...

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Snowy_One » Sun May 12, 2013 11:08 pm

Kin surviving, of course making the assumption that she doesn't die later on due to things related to Psimax as well. Kin is easily the character I want to root for the most aside from Dies, and even Dies is changing now that he's free of Junior.

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Verz » Mon May 13, 2013 3:10 am

They are both great characters, and PsyMax could, potentially, come to fill almost any role because of his 'neutral' alignment stance(even if most of us think he is an evil bastard)

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by RJJ7 » Mon May 13, 2013 11:23 am

RocketScientist wrote:Who gets Psimax?
I don't understand.
Who kills Psionic Minmax? At the end, somebody's got to do it! Is it Forgath? Who?
Nobody. Nobody kills him. He lives.
You mean he wins? Jesus, Thunt, why did you write this thing for?
You know, you've been very sick, and you're taking this story very seriously. I think we'd better stop now.
No, I'm ok. I'm ok. Sit down. I'm all right.


I want Psimax to live... to the pain. >:D
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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Prometheus » Mon May 13, 2013 11:09 pm

Sushulana wrote:
thinkslogically wrote:I'd go with kin surviving, since that would imply that they win the maze. Since Psymax is not from their reality and the majority of other realities are evil, leaving him to destroy the leftover teams would statistically be a win for the forces of good. Also, they'll never have to meet him again, so that would be a win.
Agreed, we could really use a good win right about now.

And, seeing Kin come out of this with legs would be interesting and perhaps the wildest complication so far ... gives us something long-term to discus besides a psychotic Dwarf that breaks all the rules.
I disagree that he breaks all the rules (alignment is about intention, not absolute truth). But more importantly, why does everyone hate Psimax? He just wants to end pain and suffering, it's not his fault he broke the counter and can remember every horrible traumatic death he's ever experienced in the MoM (or maybe it is). I guess he's not as awesome as http://www.goblinscomic.com/11012011/ This guy.

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Liesmith » Mon May 13, 2013 11:35 pm

RocketScientist wrote:Who gets Psimax?
I don't understand.
Who kills Psionic Minmax? At the end, somebody's got to do it! Is it Forgath? Who?
Nobody. Nobody kills him. He lives.
You mean he wins? Jesus, Thunt, why did you write this thing for?
You know, you've been very sick, and you're taking this story very seriously. I think we'd better stop now.
No, I'm ok. I'm ok. Sit down. I'm all right.
Oh, that's just wonderful :lol:

I hope he lives forever, like a Spartan curse. If he became a permanent fixture of the Maze, it would be wonderfully poetic justice. Maybe something involving a river of healing potion...
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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by ThatGuy » Tue May 14, 2013 12:06 pm

DuIstalri wrote:Just me being curious here - if you had to choose between Kin managing to survive this, OR Psimax getting killed permanently, which would you choose?
Wait...
DuIstalri wrote:Kin managing to survive this, OR Psimax getting killed permanently
So... If Kin survives than does that mean Psimax lives too? Or are you saying that if Psimax dies Kin has to die too? I... I don't get it. :fume:

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Krulle » Tue May 14, 2013 12:43 pm

It's hypotherical.
He just wants to know what you'd prefer.....

Both dead, or both alive.

I know what the winning option in a poll
  1. Kin survives, PsiMax dies
  2. both survive
  3. both die
  4. Kin dies, PsiMax survives
would be, as that would be a no-brainer.
But if the options are both die or both survive, it's indeed interesting...
Is your desire to see PsiMax dead large enough to accept Kin's death as well, or do you want Kin to survive so much, that you'd accept PsiMax suvival as a consequence?

The poll is completely independent of Thunt's opinion, story, or decisions.
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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by hol » Wed May 15, 2013 1:32 am

RocketScientist wrote:Who gets Psimax?
I don't understand.
Who kills Psionic Minmax? At the end, somebody's got to do it! Is it Forgath? Who?
Nobody. Nobody kills him. He lives.
You mean he wins? Jesus, Thunt, why did you write this thing for?
You know, you've been very sick, and you're taking this story very seriously. I think we'd better stop now.
No, I'm ok. I'm ok. Sit down. I'm all right.


I want Psimax to live... to the pain. >:D
My theory, Psimax lives and gets killed on reset by his reality companions as for (insert plot of FMK winning maze here) he is unprepared for it.

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by DuIstalri » Wed May 15, 2013 2:22 am

Krulle wrote:It's hypotherical.
He just wants to know what you'd prefer.....

Both dead, or both alive.

I know what the winning option in a poll
  1. Kin survives, PsiMax dies
  2. both survive
  3. both die
  4. Kin dies, PsiMax survives
would be, as that would be a no-brainer.
But if the options are both die or both survive, it's indeed interesting...
Is your desire to see PsiMax dead large enough to accept Kin's death as well, or do you want Kin to survive so much, that you'd accept PsiMax suvival as a consequence?

The poll is completely independent of Thunt's opinion, story, or decisions.
Thanks for that summary, I was worried people might misunderstand the point of the question.

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Krulle » Wed May 15, 2013 2:48 am

I found it pretty obvious.

While I did choose "both survive", I am fully okay with both dying.
In my humble opinion, Kin is a player character put in space to give the adventuring group a quest and put someone at their side to complete the task, give the necessary information, influence the groups decision, ...
As a consequence of that, Kin needs to be removed after the Quest anyway.
Either by Minmax and Forgath (the group) teleporting away using Kin's Jade Teapot, or by Kin dying.
And since Minmax's player has the trueseeing role playing going on, chances are that winning the Maze of Many would break apart the group (Forgath going his way, Minmax staying with Kin), and therefore Kin needs to die.

I don't remember any breaking of the in-character rule regarding Kin as Minmax did with Forgath here, so (as far as I remember), there has been no hint that Kin is played by someone.
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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Rooks » Wed May 15, 2013 5:38 am

I'd rather see a main character who I enjoy stay alive, then a villain be offed any day of the week. Because once they get out of this maze, they'll never see PsiMax again.

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Centurion13 » Wed May 15, 2013 8:50 pm

I just wish it would update already. It's already over a day late. Is this a common occurrence?

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Krulle » Wed May 15, 2013 10:29 pm

Yes, with Thunt's current workload (game testing, amount of detail, perfectionism,...), this is rather common.

A few weeks of Altsplanations might help, but I am afraid, that THunt would just testplay the upcoming card game even more.....
He needs a bit of self-made pressure..... ;)
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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Prince Legolas » Thu May 16, 2013 6:17 pm

I think both dying would make a more interesting story.

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by DrinksTooMuchCoffee » Thu May 16, 2013 6:34 pm

We don't want an interesting and sad story; we want a happy story.

Having recently seen Futurama's "Jurassic Bark" episode, however, I may be somewhat inoculated from sad endings.

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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by BuildsLegos » Thu May 16, 2013 7:04 pm

Happy and sad both have potential for quality and Thunt knows his way around both. Besides, you certainly don't speak for us all, or else most of us would have stopped reading by now.
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Re: Kin surving, or Psimax dying.

Post by Incendax » Thu May 23, 2013 4:22 pm

The easiest solution is for PsiMax to help 156 succeed at the maze so they leave.
Then everything gets reset to the way it was, and he can succeed at his plan of suicide with no further complications.

Also, PsiMax is one of the coolest characters in this comic now. I know I will never get to see it, but I would love a confrontation between him and Kore.

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