Throne room and treasure room 'riddles'

[crasskris]

Just as I re-read the last book, something occured to me...gonna put it into spoiler tags, for the extremely unlikely chance that even part of my theory is true.

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Just had another look at the tower room ÔÇô the first sight we get of it. (http://www.goblinscomic.com/03022013/)

Anyway, the riddle goes:

ÔÇ×You've shown your skill, you've shown your power. But the key goes to the first up the tower.
Avoid the key that bites and the key that thinks, the key you want it the key that winks.
Choose the wrong key and the mouth will close; choose correctly and up you goes.ÔÇ£

The inscription of the treasure room says:
ÔÇ×Verily the first to enter the circle of blue shall be victorious. And so the victors shall return to their land of home by entering the circle of red.ÔÇ£

So. All the tower room riddle says is: choose the right key to ascend through the mouth. Nowhere it is said that the key will open the treasure room door.

But the treasure room scripture says that you need to enter the circle of blue to win, which is right behind the door, and the circle of red behind that to return...so you need to get into that room, since those are the only circles of red and blue, right?

Wrong. Look at the tower room again and you'll see two apparently round columns, one red and one blue, topped by probably round braziers, one red and one blue, spouting flames in red (well, orange) and blue.

Coincidence? Thunt just playing with popular complementary colours?

Perhaps. Odd though. And it's kinda hard to tell if the braziers are in jumping distance from the tower platform...

[Krulle]

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Just had another look at the tower room ÔÇô the first sight we get of it. (http://www.goblinscomic.com/03022013/)

Anyway, the riddle goes:

ÔÇ×You've shown your skill, you've shown your power. But the key goes to the first up the tower.
Avoid the key that bites and the key that thinks, the key you want it the key that winks.
Choose the wrong key and the mouth will close; choose correctly and up you goes.ÔÇ£

The riddle of the tower room is slightly unclear, as the order is not clear.
The unshaded version seems to indicate a different order: http://www.goblinscomic.com/comics/20130301.jpg

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Wall 1: You've shown your skill..
Wall 2: You've shown your power.
Wall 2: But the key goes..
Wall 3: to the first up the tower
Wall 2: Choose the wrong key and the mouth will close..
Wall 2: choose correctly and up you goes
Ceiling: Avoid the key that bites and the key that thinks..
The key you want is the key that winks

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well, everyone has their own theories.
I do no expect the braziers to be anything else than illumination.
And jumping into a flame, even a "cold" blue one, does not seem inviting anyway.
The circles behind the door are two: One to define the winning team (enter blue), then proceed to the loot, then go back to the red circle to leave the MoM.

I expect the statue to move the moment someone enters the blue circle. And the statue will give you the loot belonging to your reality. No free choice in loot.

[Reads_Forums]

I'd swap lines 5&6 with 7&8 in your list.

[langerhans]

what about psimax? he seems to have pretty extensive knowledge of the place, and he was (planning on) waiting by the treasure room to intercept the winner, not in the tower room, which suggests he thinks that the circles in the treasure room are the ones which 'win' the maze

[Krulle]

I'd swap lines 5&6 with 7&8 in your list.

That's why I linked the unshaded version, where there are only 2 blocks !
It's much easier to put into an order.....

[Reads_Forums]

I'd swap lines 5&6 with 7&8 in your list.

That's why I linked the unshaded version, where there are only 2 blocks !
It's much easier to put into an order.....

Looking at it purely as separate lines, that is probably the best order as well.

[Linkcharge]

...which suggests he thinks that the circles in the treasure room are the ones which 'win' the maze

But it doesn't guarantee that he's right. After all, it's unlikely that he'd allow anyone to actually win and nobody would think of jumping into the braziers until they've read the clue in the treasure room. If PsiMax kills them as soon as they arrive, neither he nor they will ever realize that the circles in the treasure room are a decoy.

I do think that the braziers are probably those colors simply to make them dramatic (nothing says drama like primaries). Thunt has used the red/blue division before in the Bloodlight maze. I expect the treasure room to have its own weird trickery.