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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by SGTdude » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:13 am

Actually, as I understand it...
Jacon wrote: Current location of enemies.

Three guards around Kaliss. One guard next to Cade. The human 15 feet away from the group.
So... (with corrections)
Nerre wrote:So our situation currently is this, trying to summarize it:

Tokryn (goblin paladin): free from shakles,but guarded by one hobgoblin (1 of 4). approaching mounted human 15ft away
Kaliss (troglodyte cleric): free from shakles, but one hobgoblin guard approaching with new rope shakles (2 of 4). Two more are maybe watching him. (3+4 of 4) True, but one is asking Adrena a question and likely looking at her.
Cade (halfling rogue): still shackled wit ropes, trying to free himself this turn with a sharp rock. Not guarded right now, but might draw attention soon.
Adrena (halfelf duskblade): still trapped in the cage, trying to fake-faint.Not guarded right now. Being approached by the only goblin who is standing near Cade.
Gendalr (human wizard): still shackled wit ropes. Not guarded right now, but trying to draw attention from what Cade is doing.

Enemies:
1 human, fat, leader of the slavers, mace, wooden shield, chainmail.
1 scruffy hobgoblin guard, maybe some kind of sergeant. rusty long sword.
3 hobgoblin guards. rusty long swords.
Im hoping I can at least keep the human out of the fight while Cade sneak attacks, but then that leaves 3 on you Nerre, and Quarg wont be able to help Im assuming, unless freed. I plan to try and maintain my position between the human and the rest of our group until I am aware that something else has happened (although I do have one possible idea depending on what Jacon puts out in the update) until the attack begins. I haven't played a game like this in a long time, but I see this fight as doable but difficult.

We can still back down the shenanigans and return to slave-mode if the rest of the party wishes.
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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Nerre » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:28 am

they are all hobgoblins, not goblins, aren't they? The only goblin should be our paladin. Or did I get this wrong?

I am not sure if I can deal with 3. I got command and cause fear, which might get 1-2 off for a while or disarm them, but I can only use one spell per turn. I also cannot parry as I only got my claws, so only dodging or counterattacking. I might get down the one closest to me quick, but not sure about the other 2. Might be able to cast 1 thing so it leaves me with only one of them.
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Post by SGTdude » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:40 am

You are right. He says they are hobs at the beginning but this confused me.
Jacon wrote: The goblin listening to Adrene turns and also draws his blade and steps next to Cade who notices a small dagger in a sheath on the goblins belt.
Sorry for the mistake.

Also, Bob seems to be trying to pull at least one of them off you. Cade can sneak attack his. Adrenda could try to take another off you by casting some spell or doing something. But I cant really help unless I complete take the human out of the equation for a moment (which I have an idea for but am not sure it would work). So....

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Post by Nerre » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:45 am

if you think you are faster than you are strong, running might also take one guard away from the rest. Also it might give a chance to ambush one of them in a one on one, not three on one. Like run in the forest, hide, and when they pass you attack from behind. If you got hide skills enough. :)
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Post by SGTdude » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:54 am

I was thinking more about slapping the horse on the rear end and hoping that the human doesnt have sufficient ride skill. But then that would take Adrena out of the picture too. I could attack the human, but that wont get far since he is mounted. I think if I ran, they would likely just let me go (and others are better at hiding than me).

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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Theis2 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:01 am

I'm actually attempting to free Adrena if I don't get noticed, and not about to attack anyone yet.
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Post by Nerre » Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:06 am

You could try smite evil, should bring you on +8 to your attack roll.

I also could summon a simple monster. Not sure what I would get with my alignment, will have to check it.
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Post by Quarg » Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:13 am

I've generally assumed too difficult to cast a spell with iron shackles on at this stage....the motion component is difficult with them on...and I doubt I have a high enough concentration to make it achievable roll...

Which is why I pretended to faint to either
a)get the Paladin in to see to tend to me...and get the shackle off...
b)or allow my shackle to be easily accessed by the cagey looking halfling if he can sneak under my wagon...

So you want the Hobs to have a very...very bad day...get these damn shackles off the blade...

(Actually, if you continue to distract things...I may just try to cast with them on...)

@GM: What is going to be the DC for having Adrena attempt to cast a spell with the iron shackles on...It should be a concentration roll....
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Post by SGTdude » Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:45 am

Well should the human go "fine, check her" I will do so. Should others decide to attack, I will do likewise.

Should someone create a distraction and the human dismounts to approach them, I will wait until I am flanking/behind and then attack.

Those are my initial thoughts
(and I planned on smiting, thats why i was detecting)
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Post by Jacon » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:51 am

You would take -5 to your check while the manacles are on. that goes for the wizard to.

The human has no mount. he is the driver of the cart which is pulled by a donkey.

Their all hobgoblins.

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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Nerre » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:55 am

To hit is just is this 3.5 edition:
1d20 + Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + size modifier
right?
In my case 1d20+0+3+0.

In 2.0 you sometimes had to roll below, sometimes above your skill score.
Or is it more complex?
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Post by SGTdude » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:01 am

Jacon wrote: The human has no mount. he is the driver of the cart which is pulled by a donkey.
Totally missed that. Rerouting strategy (all actions stated so far still stand)
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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Theis2 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:03 am

To hit and skill rolls always are better the higher you roll. You need to roll as much as the ac on the enemy when rolling to hit or do the same with skills against the DC. So fairly simple, most of the time you just need to be equal to or higher than what their armor class is :)
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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Nerre » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:14 am

And what about breaking the rope? Do items have some kind of AC-value to use for attempts like breaking them or opening them or doing other skill-based stuff?
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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Jacon » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:34 am

items have a toughness ( reducation to the damage dealt to them.) and a hp value. Sometimes you can just make a strength check to break them though.

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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Theis2 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:37 am

Skills use a dc rather than ac but the concept is the same that you have to roll more than the ac/dc to succeed. There is also ac, hardness and hp for items, but I don't think it applies to breaking free of the rope. I think that's just a str check with a certain dc.
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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Nerre » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:49 am

Yes, think that makes sense. Especially with having scales, so the rope does not cut as easily into the skin when pulling. Natural armor for the win. :D
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Post by SGTdude » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:16 am

Theis made me think of the argument when bigears was crossing the river. :P

Also, I dont know what I might do next. I suppose whatever I do next will depend on what action is taken by the leader and the rest of our group. If somebody has an idea of how to proceed wisely, Im all ears.
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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Nerre » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:53 am

Isn't it your char who had written leader into his personality description?

My char is rather like Thaco (the personality). He knows his stuff and his point of view, and got some experience, but he does not need to lead. He does if the circumstances ask for it and nobody does though.

We can delay it maybe some more turns to give our rogue a change to free the duskblade (some kind of battlemage, right?). Bobs wizzard is only bound with ropes around his hands, so he should be able to do basic casting which hasn't wide gestures. Or is being shackled the same malus, no mater how good or bad you are shackled?
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Post by SGTdude » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:40 am

I meant the slaver's human leader.

And I am a reluctant leader. I will lead, but its not my plan A.

Given the fact that we dont know eachother, Tokryn would be especially hesitant about taking action that could cause negative actions for the other slaves. That is why I am kind of waiting to act 2nd or last.

Edit: Given the trust that Tokryn has earned at this point, he will not break it just cuz the cage is opened. For him the time to act is not now, but it may be soon based on what the others do.

Also, I found this informative for soothing my conscience about lying to this fat sack of ... stuff who has enslaved us. :D
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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Quarg » Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:32 am

Just to let you know, I'm assuming that I need to get the human trader disarmed so I can make an unarmed attack without him having an attack of opporunity against me...that or I'm going to have to use my special ability...
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Post by SGTdude » Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:40 pm

out of curiousity, what are everyone's dailies? (assuming people are ok with sharing)

I can try to disarm him, but im waiting to see his response to my bluff first.
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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Theis2 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:30 pm

I haven't decided yet.. Considering something with getting a free sneak attack against someone or something along those lines.
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Re: DND Ashren OOC

Post by Jacon » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:34 pm

I think people should choose colors for their characters talk txt. Makes you stand out a bit more in the post.

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Post by SGTdude » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:40 pm

K. I will go with a red to match his eye color and start using on next update.
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