Goblins Minesweepers - A Grave Situation (Turn 19)

[GathersIngredients]

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Guys, I don't mean to be rude, or tell you off or anything, but isn't one of the main ideas of this game to tease everyone's brain a little? How can other players do that, or enjoy figuring out on their own where there are mines and where it's safe to go, if you post your findings for everyone to read?

I acknowledge that this is a co-operative game (and am very happy about it, too!), but if there were people who really don't want to go through that thought process themselves, then I'd have to wonder why they even signed up for this game in the first place?
If someone asks for help, or whether or not a specific square is safe, then by all means: help them. Just... offering a 'complete' solution to the map (as far as available with the current number squares) to me seems contra-productive to the spirit of the game. Maybe you could at least put that information into spoilers, so people can decide themselves if they want to read that or not?

But then again, perhaps that's just me and I interpret some meaning and fun into figuring out stuff on my own (most of the time), that just isn't there to other people...

And please: Like I already said, I don't mean to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't be doing. I don't want to be bossy or pick a fight or anything. I just wanted to offer an observation/pose some questions, maybe find out how other people think about this.

[Nerre]

I agree on Gathers. I also made a picture which shows like 25 of 30 mines already, and having 50:50 or 33:67 chances for 4 of the remaining 5, but I think everybody should think for themselves, so I did not post it. Most of us are smart and can do the math on their own. On top of that, you also should keep in mind that some just don't want any help or want to sort it out on their own. It might not only spoil the mines, but also the game for some people if you post anything you know before they have a chance to sort it out.
It is like if you are playing memory, and somebody who's turn it is not or who just watches you play tells you where the tiles are that match.

[LooksAndSmiles]

Okay, to keep the peace and to possibly appeal to all parties:

From now on, please keep all the "where is the mine" type discussion within spoilered tags.

It helps if you give a header to the spoiler, so it doesn't get mixed with other spoilers:

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[spoiler=Mine Layout Discussion]

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I think A1 is not a mine.

[BadgeAddict]

5 turns without stepping onto a new spot? Bah...I can go double that no problem. my new goal will be to make it to the end of the map without doing anything else but moving to a new tile that i haven't walked on yet. (specifically that i haven't walked on yet.)

[LooksAndSmiles]

Turn 5 >>Next Turn

Goska moves to K5, which is another "2". She turns around slowly and the stick points towards south-west this time. DING!
Stumbles around heads over to A4, finding a "1". +1XP
Blitz Craig turns around and runs to E5, revealing a "3". +1XP
Flags Mines flags D6.
Questions Everything slowly backs away from the statue, landing on G7, that uncovers a "2". +1XP (+1bonus) DING!
White Metal runs through J-I-H7, exploring "1", "2", "1" accordingly. +3XP
Schnitzel continues to D8, not giving up on the task he has given to himself, like a true Lord.
Tries-and-Dies flags H5.
Flags Fuses places a flag on E3.
Dies moves up to A6.
Explore-Randomly explores a "2" on H9. +1XP (+1bonus)
Oh See That Shiny steps over to C2, finding another "3" +1XP

Goska sees the following tokens: a green token with a nimble figure, a red token with an item getting destroyed, a blue token with an evil looking figure crossed out and an answering a call token.
Questions Everything sees the following tokens: a green token with a nimble figure, a red token with an item prevented to drop, a golden token with a caped figure over a grave, and a Warning token.



Achievements

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Group Achievement: "Grave Robbers", for opening 5 graves. (Awarded in Round 2, Chapter 2, Turn 4)
White Metal (white): "Double Up!", for activating two of the same skill token.
Schnitzel: "Newcomer's Luck", for instantly reaching level 1 in a game.

Character Sheets:
.[tabs:Blitz Craig]
Jibjib's Blitz Craig
Level 1, XP: 10. Deaths: 2

Active Skills 2/2: evil (use corpse),Run
Unused Skills 0/2:
Inventory: 10 / 10 flags, sword, jacket

Hammerspace: 6 coins
[tabs:DiesExplosively]
DiesasaYoungling's DiesExplosively
Level 0, XP: 0. Deaths: 0

Active Skills 0/1:
Unused Skills 0/1:
Inventory: 9 / 10 flags

Hammerspace empty
[tabs: Explore-Randomly]
I'mBob's Explore-Randomly
Level 0, XP: 6. Deaths: 1

Active Skills 0/1:
Unused Skills 0/1:
Inventory: 10 / 10 flags

Hammerspace empty
[tabs:Flags Fuses]
Nerre's Flags Fuses
Level 1, XP: 5. Deaths: 2

Active Skills 2/2: Visions (available at turn 26), hero(return)
Unused Skills 0/2:
Inventory: 8 / 10 flags, Carved Figure of Hiccuping

Hammerspace: 8 coins[/tabs]

.[tabs:Flags Mines]
WearsHats' Flags Mines
Level 2, XP: 9. Deaths: 3

Active Skills 3/3: Call (level 2), Treasure, seer (resist)
Unused Skills 0/3:
Inventory: 9 / 10 flags

Hammerspace: 0 coins, detector
[tabs:*Goska Bluey*]
Davecom3's Goska Bluey
Level 3, XP: 0. Deaths: 2 - Leader Level 1 (2 LP)

Marks: Sign of Goodwill*
Active Skills 3/4: Jump, Rescue, Push
Unused Skills 1/4: Visions (available at turn 26)
Inventory: 10 / 10 flags, whip, Y-shaped stick

Hammerspace: 0 coins, candle, harmonica

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*Sign of Goodwill:
Heals an ally (including self) for 2 HP, in a radius of 3 movement range. The leader can't perform another main action this turn, and gains 1 XP upon successful heal if the target is someone else. Additionaly, healing someone will remove one negative status effect.
[tabs:Oh See That Shiny]
Theis2's Oh See That Shiny
Level 2, XP: 3. Deaths: 2

Active Skills 2/3: hero(shout), evil(greed), Warning
Unused Skills 1/3: spelunky(dodge)
Inventory: 10 / 10 flags, sword, Y-stick, shield, jacket, candy, mouldy bread

Hammerspace: 0 coins
[tabs: Questions]
Lee's Questions Everything
Level 1, XP: 0. Deaths: 0

Active Skills 0/2:
Unused Skills 0/2:
Inventory: 10 / 10 flags

Hammerspace empty[/tabs]

.[tabs: Schnitzel]
BadgeAddict's Supreme High Lord Schnitzel
Level 1, XP: 0. Deaths: 0

Active Skills 1/2: seer (enchant)
Unused Skills 1/2: hero (punish)
Inventory: 10 / 10 flags

Hammerspace empty[tabs:Stumbles around]
GathersIngredients' Stumbles around
Level 2, XP: 15. Deaths: 2

Active Skills 3/3: Rescue, Jump, evil(greed)
Unused Skills 1/3: Visions (available at turn 26)
Inventory: 13 / 13 flags, jacket, sword, 10ft pole

Hammerspace: 5 coins, , frying pan, pointy stick
[tabs:Tries-and-Dies]
gamecreator's Tries-and-Dies
Level 2 XP: 2. Deaths: 3

Active Skills 3/3: Call, Jump (level 2), Visions
Unused Skills 0/3:
Inventory: 11 / 13 flags

Hammerspace: 6 coins, pebble of teleportation, 10ft pole, jacket, trousers, boots, whip
[tabs:White Metal]
kida's White Metal (white)
Level 2, XP: 7. Deaths: 1

Active Skills 3 / 3: Run x2, Warning
Unused Skills 2 / 3: unaligned(+1 pow), hero(return)
Inventory: 9 / 9 flags, trousers, sword

Hammerspace: 5 coins, flute[/tabs]

[BadgeAddict]

Schnitzel moves to D7, and gives Flags Mines a cold hard stare. Schnitzel fingers his skills in an attempt to determine their usefulness.

Schnitzel assumes that Flags will move, allowing him to enter the square, if he doesn't, he will attempt to move into the square anyways.

"Kneel before your King you pheasant" Schnitzel commands to flags "throw yourself upon the unknown and show me your worth" he demands as he curls his hand into a small fist and shakes it at the unknown.

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I know i said pheasant, I never said Schnitzel was especially smart

[GathersIngredients]

Stumbles jumps to B3 and digs. He also declares his rescue on Flags Mines.

@ Badge: I thought you wanted a rescue this turn?
Also, I think you cannot move onto a square that already is occupied by another player.

[LooksAndSmiles]

Also, I think you cannot move onto a square that already is occupied by another player.

You are right. Unless, of course, there is a hidden movement rule on grave tiles. You will never know!

[BadgeAddict]

Thanks,
I fixed it.

[Davecom3]

Goska takes the blue and green tokens, putting the blue token into effect, finally finding out if there is an achievement for having all colors on her person unless she has to attempt to equip all colors (which is likely not possible). She then moves south to K6, repeating her spinning trick with her Y-stick. She predicts that she'll wind up pointing southwest. She, then, attempts to rescue Flags Fuses.

[kida]

White metal flags H8

[Jibjib]

Craig flags F5.

[Lee]

Questions lets out a small shriek of delight at leveling up, knowing that she'll get to learn some new skills. Having completely forgotten about the creepy statue in favor of inspecting the tokens; she chooses the gold and green tokens, equipping the gold token. Awaiting the chance to find out what her new skills do, she preemptively declares that she'll use her skill to save Flags Mines (if she can and he's in danger) then moves over to G8.

[WearsHats]

I believe the cape over the grave token is "I Shall Return!" which allows you to respawn sooner after blowing up or circling out. It will not allow you to rescue me (that token has been identified, so you would have been told), but I appreciate the thought.

Speaking of circling out... The last thing I want to do is get in the way of my kingly friend. Also, I want my detector. Also, I don't really see a useful thing I can do within the next couple of turns.

Gathers, if you want to declare your Rescue on me, I'll take my chances on C7. Otherwise, I'll circle out.

[Theis2]

Shiny moves to C3

[Nerre]

Flag on G3

[Davecom3]

Okay, so you'd prefer not to test whether yoou've flagged the correct spaces, Nerre. I guess I'll look for somebody who actually could use Goska's help, then. (Upon inspection, nobody else needs protection at the moment.)

[I'mBob]

To H10!

[GathersIngredients]

Gathers, if you want to declare your Rescue on me, I'll take my chances on C7. Otherwise, I'll circle out.

Done. Always glad to be of help (and earn an extra XP ).

[WearsHats]

Okay, then. C7 it is. (It's got roughly a 50/50 shot, I think.) Let's find out what we've got. Thanks.

[Nerre]

Okay, so you'd prefer not to test whether yoou've flagged the correct spaces, Nerre. I guess I'll look for somebody who actually could use Goska's help, then. (Upon inspection, nobody else needs protection at the moment.)

You could protect me if you want, then I will change my action: Flags, seeing he made an mistake steps onto the field where he places the last flag and grabs it (E3), now suddenly being sure there is no mine her.
If he is wrong, Goska will take care of him anyway.

[gamecreator]

Tries flags H4.

[Davecom3]

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I think F7 is less likely to be a mine than E8 or F8.

[gamecreator]

Now you forced me to make a proper map. I can't understand a thing on my modified turn image.

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I think F7 is less likely to be a mine than E8 or F8.

I disagree. Out of those three tiles F8 is least likely to be a mine (at least two times less, than F7).

[Davecom3]

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I know that the numbers may seem to disagree, but there is something else that seems to suggest I'm correct.