The Goblins Fan Forum

@ Quarg: No, please don't take the torch. You'll most likely need both hands to use bow & arrow. Just USE the torch, if you want to try and light the arrows before letting them loose.

@ Wears: I dunno about a 'back up plan'. Originally I hoped that the spider would walk upside down on the bridge, when lured with the rat corpse. Then, if turning off the bridge didn't make it fall into the acid, we would only have lost a rat corpse, and could have tried the other option, namely to poke the spider with the spear so it will stay still and shoot it with bow and arrow.
Now we have the chests to make sure that the spider gets thrown into the acid vat, even if it walks on the walls rather than on the bridge. Additionally we all stand ready to fight it with conventional methods (spear, pointy stick and bow & arrow), in case it gets aggressive after being hit by some chests.
What else can we do?
Also, if the bridge is turned off, you don't need to fit the spear through the holes, because there will be one big hole where the bridge used to be, right?

And I don't know why you keep on going on about some rope. We don't have any rope. And the gnomes basically just told us that they could make us something for flaming arrows, but that would be the only thing they could give us.

@SGTdude: I think you said something about what we want to achieve before we leave the dungeon again, after/if we successfully deal with the spider, the underwear crisis and the beer shortage. This is an excellent idea and I'm sorry for missing/ignoring it earlier.
I would be thrilled if we could loot all the chests. But I'm not sure if Walks would survive much more fighting.
Also, I'd like to rescue the gnome from the web (I already mentioned that, though).
If we can take one (or more) of the indestructible chests with us, that would be super cool, too! Maybe the tiny one under the web, at least? If we manage to kill the spider somehow.
Oh, and I edited my action post, so that Walks shouts to Odd when to trigger the bridge. But I'm not sure if she actually can do it, because of what else she's already doing that turn. Maybe you could condition your button pressing action similar to my shouting condition, to make sure the bridge gets triggered, if the spider is in a good position for that, no matter if Odd gets a command, or not?

@ the gesture: And here I was thinking that it was Odd hovering his finger over the button, so eager to press it and just waiting for the opportune moment. But it made me chuckle, anyways, and SGT's interpretation is even more hilarious! Especially in combination with the facial expression of Rork and William.

Ah, now I understand what you meant about the spear. Sorry, I didn't get the picture before. I thought you wanted (while standing on the bridge yourself) to poke through the holes at the spider to throw it into the acid, while it's walking upside down on the bridge or something. Which, while possible, would have collided with the idea of turning the bridge off to make the chests topple onto the spider.

And I'm sorry, but I wasn't aware that you were waiting for an 'okay' from any of us before you would get the rope. If you want the rope, and you're the one negotiating with the gnomes AND no players protests and says you should get something else, instead, then I suppose just go for it. I didn't wait for anyone's okay with the trade rat corpse for spear (borrowed!), either.
Don't get me wrong sometimes coming to a consensus is MUCH preferable to everyone doing their own thing (and very much necessary when wanting to do a massive co-operative plan like we are doing now), but OTOH, sometimes waiting for your co-players to agree on EVERYTHING you want to do is contra-productive, because you get nothing done at all.
That doesn't mean don't offer your ideas before doing them. Just that 'Qui tacet, consentire videtur' is - in my personal opinion - a valid approach. Meaning if you suggest something and no one protests against it the next turn, I (again, this is ME) would deem it safe to proceed with that action, because the others either think (secretly without telling me so) it's a good idea, or at least not that it's a bad idea and I should be doing something else, or they just don't care either way. (...Or they think it's a bad idea, but they really want to see my char do it, anyways, possibly to fail and/or get horribly mutilated. ), would most likely just do it. Unless I have a better idea, or want to do something else because of short attention span and/or new developments.


And while the idea with the rope and the chests could work, I'm not sure if the rope just wouldn't dissolve, and we would have gained nothing at all. If you WANT to try it, though, say so. I can hold of having Walks try to lure the spider until you got the rope and tied it to your hearts content to the chests or whatever.

Well, there's no way to split ONE item among 4 goblins, anyways.
Also, I have no idea what else we could be getting from the gnomes.
And I'd be willing to wait, because I think it's a valid idea, that could turn out well. If you want to you could ask the gnomes if they think their rope would be able to withstand the acid, and, if so, for how long, before committing to get the rope.

With a rope, (with or without the chests) it would be easier to reach the right lower side of the room, if only by having 1-2 goblins hold onto the rope, and another one climbing down it, swinging towards the web/chests.

Ok, so I took a couple of liberties this turn with Walks' actions, which I hope are ok. As a rule, I don't like controlling people's PCs on their behalf, but in the interest of expediency and because you've explained your plans in detail so far I made the call to do it in this case. If it's not ok, let me know and I'll change the actions accordingly.