A month in ....

[WearsHats]

I thought we agreed to stop speculating. They'll tell us what they can when they can. Hopefully soon, but just try to hang in there. Meantime, guessing isn't helping anyone.

[Guus]

So, what's everyone's favorite souffl├®?
I kid

The month in is quite the long wait though, sign me up for the mailing list!

[SculptsAir]

Unless you have more information then us, i see no harm in some speculation.
Tarol might even be amused by some of it if he ever gets back. (Especially the otherworldly ones...)

If you do have more information....

[WearsHats]

There's no harm in the "Who Has The Wildest Theory" thread, where people come with their most off-the-wall theories. But the mod team has asked that people refrain from serious speculation, as it won't do any good and could potentially cause harm depending on what's actually going on.

[Gemi]

Long time reader, just never created an account.

I actually agree with you, Groo_the_Wanderer. It's one of those things that had a pretty influential effect on people, then dropped off the radar with no actual explanation. Now that most of us are invested into the story, it really sucks to see it suffer like this. Oh well, I'm going to give it possibly another month at very best.

Thunt was actually pretty lucky. I mean, not everyone can pull off an engaging story like this and make it into a successful comic that generates actual livable income. Man, that would be an awesome dream! Quite a few web comic artist I have seen did it on the side of at least a part time job if not a full time one. He might end up having to get a regular job like the rest of us.

-Gemi

[SculptsAir]

There's no harm in the "Who Has The Wildest Theory" thread, where people come with their most off-the-wall theories. But the mod team has asked that people refrain from serious speculation, as it won't do any good and could potentially cause harm depending on what's actually going on.

I like how you dodged the main unasked question in my post.

[WearsHats]

Gemi - Welcome. I think it's a bit early to put the comic in the past tense. We'll see.

Air - I do not currently have more information on the nature or cause of the current situation.

[SculptsAir]

Thanks. Lets hope that changes.

[warrl]

Unless you have more information then us, i see no harm in some speculation.

Have you read this thread? A couple ways have been laid out that baseless speculation done by ignorant uninvolved people could be harmful.

Of course, all those ways are based on certain assumptions - but we have no reason to assume that those assumptions are false. We also have no reason to assume they are true, but the path of lowest risk and best reward lies in respecting the possibility.

[SculptsAir]

Uhm, Yes, i read all of both pages of this thread.
Or do you mean the 47 page long one? Of course i did not. Its 47 pages long. I read the first couple, a random one in the middle and the last pages.

Edit: Moved this into its own post.

[Amuseph]

Uhm, Yes, i read all of both pages of this thread.
Or do you mean the 47 page long one? Of course i did not. Its 47 pages long. I read the first couple, a random one in the middle and the last pages.

If Thunt was engaged in legal issues with a gag order (meaning he isn't allowed to talk about it to anybody) that would mean we shouldn't know what's going on.

If, for whatever reason, somebody were to speculate what happened, the opposing party can use that as legal grounds against Thunt regardless if he actually did anything or not

Taking two outrageous (hopefully) idea
Let's say WearHats is suing Thunt for not giving him credit for giving him the idea of creating a comic with goblins in them
Thunt is told to stop writing about goblins and not talk about it till the judge decides who owns the idea of making comics with goblins in them.
WearsHats checks the forums and sees we speculated that maybe somebody was trying to sue Thunt because of this idea. He doesn't think anything of it thought because "hey, what do they know, there is a gag order).

A week passes and WearsHats car explodes. This is probably accidental because he hates getting his oil changed, however, he's pissed. He decides 'Hey, I bet one of those Gobliners did it! I'll show them' and decides to convince the judge that Thunt told somebody to bomb his car.

Thunt now has to battle both his legal issue AS WELL as trying to prove he didn't say anything. If he loses, he's in more shit. Even if he wins, he's wasted more time and making a poor example for his original case.

Alternatively, lets say we're wrong:

We guess WearsHats is trying to sue Thunt when in reality he doesn't even know whats going on. Soon he's getting flooded, harassed, and being impacted by our angry mob. He decides to now take legal action against Thunt. Thunt now has to deal with one (possible) legal issue and one real legal issue. If word of the second reaches the first, this can then be used as additional ammo against him

Overall the serious speculation isn't to protect us, its to protect Thunt (and in the end our community). As I mentioned before, there are probable real examples of why he's been quiet and why this is taking so long. If we were to start poking where we shouldn't, we may cause more issues

WearsHats: Using you as example as I feel it is outrageous enough to not make sense. Let me know and I'll gladly give them a John Doe name

[SculptsAir]

Note that i did not perform the art of speculation: The forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.
I did not provide any theory. My conjecture is based on solid information. Well, as solidly as you can disprove a negative anyway. (Prove to me Thunt isn't waiting for someone to figure out that he is waiting for someone to figure out what he is doing.)
Or better yet, give me reasons to believe Thunt is in legal trouble. Now no speculations mind you, the mods wont allow that. Real solid information only.

Oh, and look at this little gem. You dare complain about me `speculating`?

► Show Spoiler

Rather than going into too much detail, longtime readers should know of some of the tradeoffs of hosting Thunt has had in the past and with some issues concerning US customs. It is possible this has something to do with that. Should Goblins be involved with the possible lawsuit or legal isues(Assuming there is one) we can assume the following:
1) He may have gotten a cease and desist of some sort, preventing him from further working on the comic due to some copyrighting/trademarking issues. This would possibly include communication with his customers.
2) He may be in trouble with the Canadian version of the IRS? Continuing to work on the comic would mean continued income and they may be looking into it? Not too familiar with this but who knows.
3) Perhaps he's jailed or physically unavailable

All in all, I think his absence and Danielle posting that he'll be back soon points out that he either hasn't had access to a means of talking, isn't allowed to or doesn't want us flooding him with questions until he figures things out. They were under the assumption that it would be over quickly but somebody is causing it to drag out. A gag order may be in place to stop them from letting us know.

For example: If under their contract with a past publisher had legal wording making them own Goblins or something and they decided to go after it, they may opt to force him to stop production as well as not talk about it so other clients they produce are not impacted (I'd like to think this isn't it though).

Overall: Thunt has been with this comic since 2005? I highly doubt he would pick up and walk away. This is his source of income and he has a lot invested (time, drawing, GAR, etc), hell, we bought him a house basically. Whatever it may be, it's unwillingly preventing him from both updating and communicating with us and our best bet is to just try to keep patient.

[Aliroz The Confused]

Thunt will explain tomorrow. Discussion of such goes in the thread I just made.

[WearsHats]

Okay, good. So maybe now we can drop the subject of speculating?

[Knucklekraken]

Certainly not if you keep talking about it, dude.

There's hardly any point now, anyway. Speculation is highly unlikely to be harmful on the eve of exposition.

[Hellborn_Blight]

I don't know. But Thunt is aware that Yuan-Ti is WotC brand identity, and will not be calling her a Yuan-Ti going forward. He posted quite a while ago that he planned to retroactively call her something else, and eventually change the comic text. I would be very suprised if he called her Yuan-Ti in the game, if she's in it.

I thought I had heard he was going to do that, but then I reread all of goblins recently and it hadn't been changed so I was curious about it.

[stevedj]

Okay, good. So maybe now we can drop the subject of speculating?

Yup, 'cause now we need to transition from speculating... to predicting!




(ok, I'll go sit in the corner now and take my punishment for that...)

[Sessine]

I just wanted to note that subscribing to the mod topic worked very well indeed. The new post there alerted me within seconds that there had been further developments.

So... that's a communication tool worth keeping in mind for the future.

[CooksACarrot]

I just wanted to note that subscribing to the mod topic worked very well indeed. The new post there alerted me within seconds that there had been further developments.

So... that's a communication tool worth keeping in mind for the future.

Yes, that was very effective for me as well. Should (God Forbid) we need to deal with a similar situation, I would recommend that in the first post of such a thread, the suggestion be made to subscribe. I'm sure we have lost a number of readers who simply lurked, checked that thread (a number of the other ones professing to provide information went off topic, something I actively encouraged), and Goblins has since fallen off their radar, possibly never to return.

[Ghostdogg866]

Thunt will explain tomorrow. Discussion of such goes in the thread I just made.

I would not hold ones breath, with Thunt's track record on updates of late I would say tomorrow or the next day and possibly next week.

If it happens today great! If not, I have laundry to do.

[Guus]

Whelp, better get to it then!

[Groo_the_Wanderer]

Please post in the sticky when he actually puts the blog up.

Been checking the site on and off and it's getting to be a pain so I am putting my trust in the Mods.


I know... I know ... may Herbert have mercy on my soul ... I swear I can hear him saying "Are you sure you want to do that?"

[WearsHats]

Please post in the sticky when he actually puts the blog up.

We will.

Reminder: It's only 3pm Thunt Central Time.

[SculptsAir]

Stop speculating about his location

[CooksACarrot]

Well, now I know I'll spend tomorrow obsessively hitting refresh (Again).