What's holding you back from the KS?

[stevedj]

Can you use a debit card? I have debit but not credit. Because then I would definately consider.

If your debit card has a "Visa" or "MasterCard" logo on it, then it should work fine. (At least within the US - seems Intl can get ... complicated).

Well.. its payment by Amazon...
according to their site:

Amazon Payments accepts verified U.S. bank accounts, credit cards, and transfers from your available Amazon Payments account balance.

So, if you are a cash-only person, it would seem you could just go to your local grocery store and buy an Amazon gift card, then use some/all of that.

[Crayling]

What's stopping me? Silly import fees to norway for anything more expensive than 34 USD... And if I first were to get this the core set wouldn't be enough

[Mereneth]

I don't have a job, so cash is tight. I don't have anyone i'd be able to play with and the local card shops have long since closed...

[GriffinDWolf]

First off I've already spent my budget on kick-starter for this year on miniatures, so my luxury expenses are nothing and I like be able to eat even if its only cheap food.
Second I have seen nothing impressive enough for me to want to support it if I could, great idea and all just not something I'd spend money on especially right now.

Although I am good at understanding games from basic instruction, nothing replaces a good old professional-looking play test video to actually show the game off.

Not really impressed at all with the kick-starter for the game either, there seems little to drive funding from the non comic readers, especially without the play test video (even more so that one wasn't made to kick off the game - bad move). I think everyone is glad Evertide is giving responses fairly quickly. It may be a great game but there is something a little lack luster about it that just does not draw me in. (I will say though this whole campaign had been done much better then most Kick-starts I have seen) Who knows surprises may be in store for future goals and funding will probably still trickle in. Lets hope for a great last week and an even better 48-24 hr marks huh .

I think in the end I have to say a card game just isn't my thing anymore. I've 5ring'd, MTG'd, Munchkin'd, hp-tcg's, yugio'd among others and several pissed me off a few too many times that i haven't bought cards now for over 6 years. Since the game is funded and I don't really care for it, IF I had the money I'd rather it go to Goblins directly then GAR.

[RocketScientist]

Poverty. I need all the money I can scrounge to put toward fixing up the house. And I don't know who I'd play with. Maybe my son would play it. He does read Goblins. Getting him off the computer is a chore, though.

[zennyrpg]

I'm not getting the game because I've been way too lazy to go to my boardgame group, so I really don't need it.

This isn't really stopping me from donating- but I do worry that as more gets added to the core set (via stretch goals) the price point will just go higher for when I do want to buy it eventually, making it less likely I will ever buy it eventually. This could also hurt sales in the long term.

[Just Karen]

No funds - closing on a house next month, and we'll be skating pretty close to not being able to pay closing costs because we don't have the money in the bank already. (Yes, I know, that's not how you're supposed to do it... but while we have no $ right now we're doing fine on income:expenditures, interest rates and prices are both going up, so we decided 85% maximum affordable home in July @ 4.25% is better than 100% in September @ 5%. Seattle housing market is brutal for buyers; most homes are on the market for less than 10 days.)

[Rev Dezzi]

I would, but I'm in the middle of a move. We're moving into a house significantly larger than where I live now and I will need to start furnishing a new house.

[RocketScientist]

Closing costs are awful. They should really just roll most of that into the loan. The point ought to be whether you can make the ongoing payments, not how much can they choke out of you upfront.

[Krulle]

Different country, different rules....
Here (NL) it was possible to get up to 120% of the house price as loan, as long as you could pay the interest and a small return.... But then, you cannot go and leave the house keys with the bank, and be free of the home loan debt. The remainder after sale will still be your debt.
But USoA law allows house owners that, so USoA banks need to be more careful.
In DE the bank only finances about 80%, you need to finance all the rest yourself. 20% plus closing cost (about another 10%)=30% of the buying price....

Now, with the Euro-crisis, banks are keeping their wallets pretty shut.

[hellspawned]

My reason for not backing the game is just bad timing, my economic situation is horrible right now. Was close to losing my home a couple of months ago. It's getting better now, but I cant afford anything like this for the forseeable future.

[WearsHats]

Well.. its payment by Amazon...
according to their site:

Amazon Payments accepts verified U.S. bank accounts, credit cards, and transfers from your available Amazon Payments account balance.

So, if you are a cash-only person, it would seem you could just go to your local grocery store and buy an Amazon gift card, then use some/all of that.[/quote]

Sadly, this doesn't work. Just tried to help someone who has a PayPal account but not a credit card. I sent him an Amazon gift card and he reimbursed me via PayPal. That worked fine. But Kickstarter won't let you pay with your Amazon balance. Only a credit card.

If you're in the US, you can get a prepaid debit card, or even a prepaid virtual debit card (no physical card, just a number emailed to the recipient). But I haven't found a site yet that will let me buy one to be sent to an international address. You can send a virtual card to any email address, but then they have to register it, which requires a US mailing address. Which, on the one hand, is strange and disappointing. On the other hand, I suppose such a service could be abused in illegal ways. I did find one site called epay-cards which will let you do it, but buying cards from them is not cheap.

This is getting kind of frustrating. If only PayPal still offered virtual debit cards...

[stevedj]

Why send the actual card? Just buy it yourself, and email the 'recipient' the numbers from the card (front AND back), and you are done.

[WearsHats]

You have to register the street address to activate the card. And then you need to use that as the billing address.

[stevedj]

Oh. I was thinking just walk into the grocery store and buy a card "off the shelf". They don't ask for all kinds of information that way, do they?

[WearsHats]

I'm not sure. I think those still need to be activated with a mailing address before you can use them.

[RocketScientist]

Does that mean international users can't get a debit card for their Paypal accounts? I have a debit card for mine.

[WearsHats]

I'm not sure. I suggested it, but I'm not sure what happened.

[innuendo]

I use a debit card for Kickstarter, so I'm positive it works

[Rooks]

It's a combo for me. 1) I'm trying to save money, 2) I have a problem with KS where I always want to go to the highest level I can feasibly do (because the extras are always so darn cool), but the that in turn really conflicts with #1, and 3) I'm still paying off my Zombiecide 2 KS payment.

I love Thunt's stuff and I have people who'd be willing to play (at least once ). But sadly, I don't think I'll get to it.

[WearsHats]

I use a debit card for Kickstarter, so I'm positive it works

I'm aware you can use a debit card to pay for Kickstarter. What I was trying to do was give one to someone who lives in another country so that he could use it for Kickstarter. In theory, I should be able to just buy a prepaid debit card and send him the numbers (there are even some that can be bought as electronic only and directly emailed as a gift). But the ones I've found require you to activate the card with a US mailing/billing address. The only one I've found that can be sent anywhere and which doesn't require a corporate account to buy charges huge fees - $90 to buy a $75 card.

As I'll shortly be posting down in the Contests forum, I will also be running two contests with cash prizes which I hope to use to encourage more interest in the campaign. It would be good if I could figure out an easy way to make those prizes directly applicable to KS. I can send an Amazon gift card to any email address, but since that can't be applied to KS payments it doesn't help much. (Luckily, money is fungible, but still...)

[Mcslave101]

I threw in 2$

But I plan to put in enough to receive the game

[Krulle]

I use a debit card for Kickstarter, so I'm positive it works

I'm aware you can use a debit card to pay for Kickstarter. What I was trying to do was give one to someone who lives in another country so that he could use it for Kickstarter. In theory, I should be able to just buy a prepaid debit card and send him the numbers (there are even some that can be bought as electronic only and directly emailed as a gift). But the ones I've found require you to activate the card with a US mailing/billing address. The only one I've found that can be sent anywhere and which doesn't require a corporate account to buy charges huge fees - $90 to buy a $75 card.

As I'll shortly be posting down in the Contests forum, I will also be running two contests with cash prizes which I hope to use to encourage more interest in the campaign. It would be good if I could figure out an easy way to make those prizes directly applicable to KS. I can send an Amazon gift card to any email address, but since that can't be applied to KS payments it doesn't help much. (Luckily, money is fungible, but still...)

I am missing pledges allowing a variable number of core games to give away amongst friends.
Like add 25$ per addictionalgame you want.
That way you could collect the number of prizes you want to give away directly from KS, and then send them yourself...
Now you'd need one account perprize you want to give away.
Bit I'm sure, you could arrange something with Evertide gAmes directly.
You put it in KS (or transfer directly, which is surely against KS rules),and they send it to the winners you appoint.

[innuendo]

It's against the T&C's of Kickstarter to sell multiple copies. I know a lot of people do it, but that doesn't mean we will. After the campaign we'll have options to get multiple copies.

[WearsHats]

Saw the latest update. Great news there! Thanks for going out of your way, guys!