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Posted: **Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:53 pm**

Yea i only have good mutations because i wiped all of my bad mutations away. I worked very hard to get all the mutations i have.

Posted: **Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:35 pm**

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:When I didn't connect with glotch when everyone was opposed, you didn't see me spend an action to do it anyways and piss everyone else off. And seriously, the more I play the less I'm having fun. I'm supposed to continue regardless of whether I'm having fun or not? Badge is starting shit and has admitted to doing things to get a rise out of people. And after Aegis enabled his BS this turn, I've gone from irked to pissed. At this point, I'm not having any fun with this game. I'm past the point I would normally quit a game. The only thing keeping me in it is the potential fun I could have with the golem. Its not that things aren't going our way. Its that this game just isn't fun anymore.

Well thats fair I suppose. Apologies, you can of course exercise your right to not play. And I agree it shouldn't have to come to that, Badge should ideally modify his pursuit of fun if it is impacting others' fun. But I stand by the point I make that someone else 'throwing a tantrum' and you threatening to ragequit are sorta the same, so you can't really accuse him of doing that

Anyways, thats irrelevant to the issue of people not having fun, so I shouldn't even really tread down that path.

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:And seriously you're pissed at us for speaking up the last few days when badge has been complaining for over two weeks.

I'm not pissed man, I'm not sitting here getting angry like others are. I just think its all a bit childish, without trying to sound too patronising. Are we really getting mad and losing our cool over a simple text based forum game? We've got bigger things to worry about in life. If Badge actually does wipe out the Katha race in an act of stupidity, It would be incredibly dickish if he did that, but IRL goes on, right?
If we are being specific, Badge returned Feb 27. He didn't complain, he just started making a bunch of SAs as he disconnected and ran around being Zorro, and then I think you guys started murmurings of discontent. Then Badge starts his banter as he's prone to do, and so on and so on. I think he's started complaining in the past few days because he's started getting warnings and stuff about trolling etc. But yeah, not for two weeks man. You guys began by questioning his actions.

Anyways, I'm content at the moment. My lil Katha's got some broken knees, smells like fart and acts like a vampire, but I'm happy. Life is good

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:12 am**

A short story entitled...How it all went down. *Warning, this is very long*

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ChuckDaRighteous wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:Fearing that the death of the superior mind might kill both himself and the rest of the clan...
From the stat block:
Killing the Mother Mind will break the collective, giving each individual Katha a 10% to grow in strength to Superior Mind status (until the clan again is at 7 Superior Minds) and 7% of those that grow to Superior Mind will instead become a new Mother Mind (again, 7% chance). If no one "grows into the role" the clan will fragment and split, each Superior Mind taking with it one seventh of the original Clan in a new direction.
No need to worry about that. I've actually secretly hoping for a superior mind death just so I have a chance to take their place.... is that evil of me?

BadgeAddict wrote:SA: Now that he can come and go without being under the ever present eye of the overminds, Glop helps other Katha free their minds from the Hive.

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:
Krulle wrote:I don't want to be "free"...Doing that will increase your chance of being detected...!
Oh now you want to be oppressed... a few turns ago all of you were fighting to retain your freedom.

Krulle wrote:I'll remain as we Katha evolved... Linked, but my own personality.
I don't want to know what kind of psychological problems will appear if I'd go "solo".... Withou the psychological safety net of being able to sense you weirdos...

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:I'm just messing with ya. I'll likewise resist any attempts to be separated from the clan. Although considering my position that may be a given.

BadgeAddict wrote:Correction....
SA: Glop starts a revolution amongst the NPC drones and helps them free themselves from the mental domination of the hivemind.

Davecom3 wrote:I swear Badge just adores creating rebellions. First the Grippli, and now this game

BadgeAddict wrote:I suppose that i just have a heart for people who are being oppressed.

Davecom3 wrote:I wouldn't really consider ants or bees as oppressed, nor Formians or Illithids. Illithids may make other races slaves, but I don't think they'd ever consider themselves slaves of their overmind. I think they have the same basic structure as the hive here, so I have to wonder if you're not seeing oppression where there isn't any. Now, if you couldn't vote or use some of your SAs or FHs, I'd tend to agree you were oppressed, but that's not the case here. It's also possible to come up with some other solutions for when you are being oppressed that don't demand killing so many of the populace. It doesn't look like you're even trying to come up with peaceful solutions, though.

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:I gotta agree with Dave. I view the hive mind as a telepathic lets work together thing rather than a strong controlling the weak. We coordinate our efforts and work as one via the hivemind, the supperior/mother minds are the ones who do the coordinating. They're like managers and tacticians rather than slave drivers. That's not to say I haven't had an oppressive boss who didn't know what she was doing try to over-manage my work before, but that isn't a defining characteristic of those who manage things. Likewise we could have freedom to do what we want (like we do here), or be oppressed (like the black chalk clan), or complete unification (like the pink clan).

Though maybe you can become your own superior/mother mind. I say we let him take the unearthen and keep the rest.

BadgeAddict wrote:FH: Glop tries again to help free the drones from the oppression, but more forcefully this time.

Aegis wrote:Glop meanwhile more forcefully begins playing at the tendrils and mental connections of the clan. This has not gone unnoticed, as he has been successful in wrenching the UnEarthen away into their own little collective hivemind and they dropped off the face of the "mental map" of the Katha at the same time. However, due to other biologic processes that occur when they first become UnEarthen, they become dormant when they're removed from the clan. Without a Mother Mind and Superior Minds to subconsciously "support" them, they are like puppets on strings, even though their original personalities are still intact (if inactive). Glop can restore them to wakefullness whenever he wants, or he can even try to "reset" them to full status (which will kill those that are either not A) blocked by conscious effort on Glorth's part) or B) fail to make the save (17+)). Glop has complete control of their bodies at the moment, but at the same time has been "spotted" because the UnEarthen all dropped at once... but as he's not a part of the Hivemind and can't be mentally detected at the moment scouts are needed to search the lands for him. They have not found him yet.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:Damnit badge. Stop trying to divide the clan. it will end badly for all of us. For someone who is trying to "free" unearthen you are going to make them into puppet slaves.

Synch wrote:They already were puppet slaves. People need to care less about how other people play the game, just make your own calls.

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:
Synch wrote:They already were puppet slaves. People need to care less about how other people play the game, just make your own calls.
They we're not slaves, just inferior and therefore prevented from breeding. We didn't crush them under heel the way the black chalk clan did. Also, someone had to point out the irony that his intention was to free them and now they're his puppets. And we don't want civil war but a counter action has actually appeared on the votes, meaning we as players might have to address his actions at some point.

BadgeAddict wrote:SA: Glop connects to the Unearthen mentally, planning on resetting them one by one once a certain level of protection has been created around their minds, to ensure the highest survival rate as possible.

(I'm hoping that mentally connecting with each unearthen prior to resetting or "awakening" them, that it will give them a better chance at surviving... And, just so i understand you correctly Aegis, if they roll higher than a 17 then they survive, but lower and they die?

BadgeAddict wrote:SA: The allure of more mental power to be able to free more drones and create self-aware beings is too much for Glop to resist and he makes the attempt to become more powerful mentally. He waits until at least some unearthen are free though so that they can continue his mission.

BadgeAddict wrote:SA: Now that he knows how to reset Katha, glop begins to sneak into occupied lands and reset other Katha. Hoping to give them freedom.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:SA: Now that he knows how to reset Katha, glop begins to sneak into occupied lands and reset other Katha. Hoping to give them freedom.
You mean tear them away against thier will? Look how many died for you 'freedom'. The one that is aware doesnt want this.

BadgeAddict wrote:^Glop can't hear you, because you can't find him....he is dedicated to his cause...I am simply the one who speaks his will...he is his own creation.

(Though you shouldn't be overly disappointed at this point, because regardless of what I do, aegis will make sure that no matter how amazing my rolls are, they end up being pointless....and even then he gives me penalties...why? because he refuses to allow me to go my own route....but hey, its his game..so why should I care..)

edit: Besides, whatever happened to playing however you wanted?

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:You can certainly play how you want. Just keep in mind we can too and people will likely want to vote for B before too much longer. I've been tempted but we've had some cooler options so far. You haven't been stamped out of existence because Aegis gave us cooler options to vote for. So don't say he isn't letting you do your own thing. Its all the greater threats and cooler stuff which he provided that's saved your ass thus far. Like I said you can certainly play your own way but when you're counter-productive don't expect people not to respond.

BadgeAddict wrote:^My point is not that Aegis is not letting me do what I want...my point is that, regardless of me doing what I want, he is penalizing me in doing it...so, what I'm saying is that none of you should worry to much, because Aegis won't actually allow me to be that big of a threat...his actions speak to that effect.

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:I think its more to the fact that you're not going to undermine the entirety of the Katha social structure in a day. I mean I'm only trying to build a giant golem and its going to take nearly a year, while I sacrifice several actions to its development. I think the longer you keep at it the farther you're going to get. You haven't done much yet, but you're getting close to the point of starting something significant. We'll see.

Krulle wrote:@Badge: you're what? 2 "free Kathas" plus 4 UnEarthen Katha.
That's not much compared to how many Katha exist.
And your actions are very limited. you're not actively interfering, nor are you being targeted. We can safely ignore you for now.
Either your "free" clan will survive, and may become a factor of its own, or evolution / being too small a group / ... will end your line of development.
Especially now that you seem to move off to sneak some UnEarthen of other clans I am perfectly fine with you continueing.
Until now you were a nuisance "stealing" some workforce we might have needed for fights and collecting food, but that can and is being compensated. Our food stocks are sufficient, and now that you're moving off I hope you thought of stealing a Happysight or two to plant them wherever you encounter blackness again.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:Anyways badge, when your 'freedom' costs many katha lives and you are intentionally going against katha nature in such an extreme way that you will cost the clan more. If you keep doing this we will have no choice but to remove you before you do more damage to the clan.

BadgeAddict wrote:
Arch Lich Burns wrote:Anyways badge, when your 'freedom' costs many katha lives and you are intentionally going against katha nature in such an extreme way that you will cost the clan more. If you keep doing this we will have no choice but to remove you before you do more damage to the clan.
Come at me Brah

Arch Lich Burns wrote:Yea if he is going to mess up the golem or control it I will stop him. He cannot have that power, espessially the way he is doing things.
Edit: since it is obvious badge will continue to do actions that are against the whole clan, and he basically just admitted such, I say we should stopm Glop out before he does more harm. It is obvious now with what badge said is that he is doing this on purpose to either troll us (which wont be a surprise since he likes to have his characters rebel no mayter what, even if there is nothing to rebel against to cause trouble.) since agies is going to have him do something with the golem i can only assume it is for the worst and we should nip it on the bud before badge gets the golem. Please.
Could someone change my C vote to B?

BadgeAddict wrote:SA: Glop attempts to develop a mental camouflage, enabling him to "appear" in the network under another identity, so that later, when more Katha "disappear" from the hivemind network, they still appear to be there, without actually being there. Having developed this idea, he tries to reset more random Katha, and apply this to them. (essentially, there may be a small flicker of mental connection, but not a full drop off)

Arch Lich Burns wrote:Guys, i know other options seem better, but it's obvious he is going to cause massive damage to the clan if we do not stop him. Please, vote b. badge is going to tear us apart if we keep ignoring him. He already took the unearthen and stole away regular katha against thier will (which is against freedom you know badge).

BadgeAddict wrote:Freedom...it still is freedom, because other than Moose Rping...I have only messed with NPC's..

Arch Lich Burns wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:Freedom...it still is freedom, because other than Moose Rping...I have only messed with NPC's..
No it's not freedom Badge. It's ripping them away from thier base nature against thier will. And it's only a matter of time before you do a lot of damage to the clan. We need to stop you before it's too late.

BadgeAddict wrote:Come at me Brah

^ you need to say that in Fraternity Speak to get the full effect

Arch Lich Burns wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:Come at me Brah

^ you need to say that in Fraternity Speak to get the full effect
Your not helping your point. Seems like you want us to fight.

BadgeAddict wrote:
Arch Lich Burns wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:Come at me Brah

^ you need to say that in Fraternity Speak to get the full effect
Your not helping your point. Seems like you want us to fight.
Annoy, antagonize, intimidate (fight) you personally, within the confines of this game...Yesss....

everyone else, not at all...you're the one being the most outspokenly annoyed by it all...so.....Here's your sign.

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:Maybe he has been the most outspoken but not by a whole lot. I've been calling you out on it too. Though he definitely is the most the most pissed. And while others may not be as outspoken, most if not all of us are against us.

Regardless, I think the arguments are stalling out and I think we should just drop it, before it gets nasty and let the dice do the talking.

BadgeAddict wrote:haha...but i've been ignoring you chuck...

I see no reason to get angry about any of this...I'm having fun, aren't you?
yesss...let the dice speak

Arch Lich Burns wrote:So you are antagonizing me for a reaction? You do realize that is the definition of troll right? And no i am not having fun wotj you intentionally ruining everything we worked for

BadgeAddict wrote:I am not antagonizing you for a reaction....
I am playing this game in a manner that I want to..which happens to be frustrating you..
that..is called schadenfreude
What happened to playing the game how we want...I am not specifically harming you specifically...I am only targeting NPCs...and again...I seek the betterment of Katha..
and I just realized that the OOC thread of Civ was made for this kind of thing..so you won't hear more from me here.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:B (he must be stopped, now.) c, e

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:
Aegis J Hyena wrote:The second resource is a plant that when liquified triggers the pain receptors of the target. The result is drop-to-the-ground-and-seizure levels of pain but afterward, nothing. No more pain is felt afterward, and it turns the target emotionless, with an inability to feel -anything- afterward. This is a fate worse than death to Katha (since they have weakness against emotions due to their aura sight) but it hasn't been flat out destroyed yet....

...the last is a "meat bearing plant" that seems to be connected to souls. From what your streamliners can determine, it grows a soul's former body and the soul can feel the harvesting / being eaten as part of its torment. With no souls left in the Scarred Scar, you're not sure what it will do if planted here in the Prime Material.
Anyone else suddenly inspired with ways to deal with glop?

A,B,C

Synch wrote:Calm down Burns, its a game. Someone going against the flow of things isn't necessarily trying to piss people off, some just like doing things differently to other people. Badge is obviously having fun, just ignore his banter, make one of your options stopping him, and try and enjoy yourself too. Sheesh.

BadgeAddict wrote:SA: Glop goes after theemo and tries to convince to stay and help his efforts.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:We need to destroy glop now before he becomes a mother mind or we will all suffer horribly from it.

Synch wrote:SA: Zolorm detaches from the hivemind.

Patdragon wrote:
Synch wrote:SA: Zolorm detaches from the hivemind.
Oh no.... Glops madness is catching.

BadgeAddict wrote:SA: Not caring as much about the ones that are chasing him as he did for the Unearthen, Glop tries to do a mass reset on those chasing him. If some of them are successfully awakened, Glop wins...if some of them die, glop wins..

Arch Lich Burns wrote:And now badge is actively hurting the clan. >.>

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:Damn it, I want to spend an SA protecting the hunters magically, but if I do that then we lose assurance that the refining will reach 100%. Damn you Aegis for cursing me this way. At least next turn it will be done and I can react to things again. Never have I more looked forward to an enemy's destruction.

BadgeAddict wrote:Please understand that I am not hurting any of you directly...

Arch Lich Burns wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:Please understand that I am not hurting any of you directly...
But you are harming us indirectly and it's only a matter of time before you actually do harm us directly. With your actions how are we supposed to know you aren't going to hurt us?

BadgeAddict wrote:I'm trying to correct the flaw in our evolution.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:I'm trying to correct the flaw in our evolution.
....It's not a flaw, badge it is literally how we survive. It's like saying talking is a flaw and we should mute people. And you are going to eventually become a massive "flaw" one way or another.

BadgeAddict wrote:I think we should have an intervention for you Burns..you are taking all of this way way to seriously...

I'm having fun creating a new type of Katha that is more highly evolved then the current version...

You can stand there sputtering and complaining, or you can try to stop me...

Join me, Stop me or get out of the way....but at least stop your belly-achin

Arch Lich Burns wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:I think we should have an intervention for you Burns..you are taking all of this way way to seriously...

I'm having fun creating a new type of Katha that is more highly evolved then the current version...

You can stand there sputtering and complaining, or you can try to stop me...

Join me, Stop me or get out of the way....but at least stop your belly-achin
You are not creating a new katha, and they are not more evolved. You are killing katha and ripping them away unwillingly. You do not even let them have a choice. Nature is also trying to force you back to the original katha ways. Which means you will not be more evolved.

And no I am not going to stop my "belly-aching" when I know you are going to eventually destroy us all or rip this clan apart. I am not going to have any of it.

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:You may be trying to evolve us, and may eventually do so. But some of our evolutionary benefits come from the hivemind (clairvoyance, regeneration, etc). You will destroy many of our benefits and not necessarily replace them.

And while you may not be harming us directly, you're destroying something our whole way of life is based on. Slashing our tires and then saying you didn't use the knife on us doesn't really mean much when we crash.

BadgeAddict wrote:Honestly...I'm hoping that what will happen (suggestion Aegis) that what will happen is the creation of two distinct species of Katha, one of which is Hive-minded and one of which is Free-willed.... (For all I know I'm creating a slave race, in which one of the species is dominant over the other...who knows, its a game, its fun to find out what happens when you push/break something to see what the GM bounces back with) <---thats what makes a game fun.

Synch wrote:Just pointing out that Burns' playing with mutations killed a few UnEarthern and also released the Snarl, but no-one minded. And I'll just leave this here:

While this is going on, Carpacio tries to link with the Pillar of the Hexen Slip in order to draw on its raw power. The connection is shaky at first until Xiu's attempt at "forcing" a mutation... then for a split second the floodgates open and the raw power hits Carpacio all at once. The Superior Minds for a moment think he can't handle the power surge, but as it turns out he indeed has become "one with" the Pillar of the Hexen Slip... becoming the first in Katha history to do so. This has two effects. The first is that he can "sense" the Blackness and can halt its advance (flat out negating the crit fail rolled for the defense roll). The second is that the UnEarthen are now afraid of his power. He's not a Superior Mind, but he could become one if he chose to force his way in. As the Katha don't particularly like the UnEarthen, there are thoughts of the Unearthen leaving and forming their own "outcast tribe".
Freedom!!!

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:I will point out that the snarl was a crit fail FH. You can't blame someone for stuff that goes wrong on a critfail. And the UnEarthen deaths were an unintended side effects. Badge has been told his actions would kill Katha if unsuccessful and he still does it. I don't think you can compare them.

Also, his actions go beyond seperating the unearthen. And he's not creating a new clan but creating a civil war by altering biology and social structure.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:
ChuckDaRighteous wrote:I will point out that the snarl was a crit fail FH. You can't blame someone for stuff that goes wrong on a critfail. And the UnEarthen deaths were an unintended side effects. Badge has been told his actions would kill Katha if unsuccessful and he still does it. I don't think you can compare them.

Also, his actions go beyond seperating the unearthen. And he's not creating a new clan but creating a civil war by altering biology and social structure.
Yes please do not compare my horrible crit fail with that.

And there was one unearthen that died by accident, when i tried to clean the bad mutations away from it. After it died I did not experiment on anymore asides from myself. While badge on the other hand refuses to learn from his mostakes and keeps on stealing away katha, at thier expense.

BadgeAddict wrote:I'll just have you read my sig

The ones who challenge and break the rules created by the current Authorities, are the harbingers of change.

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:Keep in mind not all change is good, so....
BadgeAddict wrote:The oneAddicts who challenge and break the rules created by the current Authorities, are the harbingers of changeEvil.
Fixed to reflect this particular situation.

BadgeAddict wrote:...... You're one...

Arch Lich Burns wrote:He's one what? And like he said not all change is good. espessially change for the cost of others.

BadgeAddict wrote:Burns.... Will you seriously get off of my ass... Chuck and I are bantering.... Or at least I am.... I hope you know I have no hard feelings against you Chucky.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:Badge there is no need to insult me. I honestly had no idea what you were talking about when he said he is one.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:
Synch wrote:Fair enough, didn't know it was a critfail.

That being said though, the katha don't like the UnEarthen and vice versa. Sounds like the UnEarthen want to be free/separate, they just don't know how.
Yea well now all but 5 are dead because of badge. And he keeps on trying to forcably put normal katha to his side, against thier will.

BadgeAddict wrote:SA: Glop goes on a suicide mission, instead of running away from his pursuers, he makes his way to the nearest superior mind and resets them in order to awaken them to new life.

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:SA: Glop goes on a suicide mission, instead of running away from his pursuers, he makes his way to the nearest superior mind and resets them in order to awaken them to new life.
wow, that will likely instantly kill the 3 streamliners attached to them too. I guess I should be thankful he doesn't go after the mothermind. I gotta agree with burns though, this has gotten less and less "another route" and more and more troll as this progressed. Still with a suicide mission inbound we'll hopefully be done with this and can start recovering.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:Seriously badge? Seriously? And you said you were not harming us. Hah. It really seems you want to harm us. You are not for the greater good, you are just a troll.

BadgeAddict wrote:I am offended by both of you for calling me a troll for playing this game in a way that I see fit.. but I am especially offended by you burns, because you have done nothing but insult me and yell at me for doing things however I want for awhile now. This is no way to treat a fellow player...in a game... and being a so-called "Games-Moderator", you should know better.

Arch Lich Burns wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:I am offended by both of you for calling me a troll for playing this game in a way that I see fit.. but I am especially offended by you burns, because you have done nothing but insult me and yell at me for doing things however I want for awhile now. This is no way to treat a fellow player...in a game... and being a so-called "Games-Moderator", you should know better.
You are basically trying to assassinate one of our leaders for your "fun" and for "playing the game". You are intentionally ruining the whole game just so that you can have fun. I have never yelled at you but I have been trying to get you to see what you are doing is harming us greatly but you do not care and just say it's you playing the game. I asked you many times to stop trying, to stop forcing yourself on unwilling NPCs but you keep on doing it, claiming that since they are NPCs they are not directly affecting us, but now you are directly affecting us and hurting us. If you really cared about freedom and katha kind you would think twice about removing them from the hive mind because it killed so many unearthen. Instead you refuse to learn and go about doing it just because. You can't go about not caring and saying you care while you abduct NPCs for your so called "freedom" and instead put them in a more slave like state.

A troll is someone who intentionally causes disruption, and you have been goading me, intentionally trying to annoy and piss me off and infact you said so yourself earlier. You are a troll.

BadgeAddict wrote: 1. I am not ruining the game, that is in the hands of the GM (who by the way, doesn't have a problem with what I am doing as he has not stated this, and If he did ask me to stop - do you think that I wouldn't...continuing at that point would indeed be trolling)
2. I am not harming anyone, you are just feeling as though everything that I am doing is against you personally...which it is not.
3. You have no right to ask me to stop trying to play this game in a manner in which I see fit...I had the same amount of backlash that you are giving me right now when I played a certain Grippli...and you know what...I wouldn't back down back then, why would you think that I will now. I had outright Death-threats against my character from other players back then.
4. I don't refuse to learn, I refuse to stop trying...there is a difference.
5. I am not being a Troll and I think you should apologize to me for calling me one...in a game, where I am running against the mainstream. (meaning that, yes I am not going with the flow, but I am not trying to destroy the game intentionally, I am playing it in the way that I see fit)

Arch Lich Burns wrote:I am not appologizing for the truth. I edited my post to show what I was talking about. You said it yourself that you are dileberatly annoying me.
2: You are not harming anyone? You are assassinating our leader, splitting up the clan.
3: So it's just your nature to break things apart. Good to know.
4: No, you kept splitting the clan away, meaning that you refuse to care or learn.
5: Not appologizing.

BadgeAddict wrote:you missed a part - within the confines of this game
what this means, is that you are taking all of this personally...way way too personally

MORTIMER INTERVENES AT THIS POINT

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:46 am**

"Notice:"

Hey guys, this has been dealt with. In the interest of being adults.... DROP IT.

This no longer has anything to do with the game. It's more of a tug-o-war of who's right and who's left. We've all figured out that both sides did things that were ultimately in the wrong. Take a breath, take a walk, pop your knuckles, spin in your chair, go read a book, do something, ANYTHING but continue this particular line of butthurt.

Badge, you like to antagonize. We get it. You might not intentionally mean it to be mean, but that's how it comes across. When you see that line being crossed, stop what you're doing and this situation need never arise again.

Everyone else, when he does stuff like this, try to ignore him. We understand he comes across as an ass. It's non-intentional apparently.

We are all adults here, or at least should be. Please start acting like it. This is a game. It's supposed to be fun. Let it be.

Don't make me use the Mod voice...

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:25 pm**

Figured we should stop chatting in the game thread...

Chuck, you didn't answer my question..

What punishment do you see fit that would make you happy...punishment for Glop that is...

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:35 pm**

Yes I did, though maybe it was a little buried:

ChuckDaRighteous wrote:
BadgeAddict wrote:I didn't critfail to hide...I critfailed on an SA roll to create a Mental Camo effect.
Normally something like that crit fails it has the opposite effect, you'd be lit up like a Christmas Tree on our mental radar giving you penalties. Instead you still get a stacking hide bonus in all future updates? That should never have happened and shouldn't continue. What's really irking me the most here, isn't that you're getting these bonuses (though it does irk me) its instead that Aegis's justifications are these small conflicting responses that don't really respond to what we're saying.

Basically he shouldn't continue to keep a bonus that you get for crit-failing. I'm not saying penalize you into oblivion, but just not keep unjustified bonuses.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:37 pm**

So..start the hiding thingy over from zero...or...lose the ability to be mentally hidden from the SM's?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:41 pm**

why would a bonus restart from 0? It crit-failed. Normally that would be penalties. I think just eliminating it is generous, but better than doing a completely 180 with penalties or retroactively changing things.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:45 pm**

could you find a comparable crit-fail that we can compare this situation to?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:50 pm**

Most recently:

Zolorm's Detatchment: 48 (Successful but noticed)
Zolorm Fortitude Save (15+): 6 (50% to become UnEarthen)
Zolorm UnEarthen (50+): 40 (De-evolved)

Not even crit-fails and:

Mutation: Slowed while in Direct Sunlight
Mutation: Brimstone Stink
Mutation: Disjointed and Dislocated Legs (Speed reduced to 1/4)

There's probably better examples but I don't feel like doing a big search. Now can you find a comparable situation where someone crit-fails and gets bonuses?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:00 pm**

What about when katha tried to put up mental resistances but make it so much easier for glop? But somehow you crit failing makes you better at hiding?

the game is not very fun if the gm obviously wants to force us to fail destroying glop.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:06 pm**

Was going back to look for more and found something:
When badge disconnected
Anyone notice something missing from the rolls?:

Badge's roll to disconnect!

After the nasty roll chances Synch had, badge completely ignoring those rolls even if he did use an FH is completely wrong. Aegis has shown way to much favoritism to this storyline.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:12 pm**

I agree that if you critfail mental camo you should be more visible, not less. A critfail is a negative.

I critfailed an assassination attempt on Chomvid. I didn't partially succeed or get any bonuses or even any bonuses. I was captured and the clan needed to rescue me.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:27 pm**

To note Chuck..I did use a FH to disconnect..not an SA..

And I also roll every turn to become UnEarthen..which is not nice...there is that too.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:34 pm**

FHs never are never auto-sucessess. In fact they fail harder if they crit fail. Also a 2% vs 50%? Synch got screwed.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:35 pm**

That I agree with you on...I think Synch did get screwed...in his attempt to join me...to conquer ...the world...mwahahahaha

just kidding..

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:53 pm**

...Yeaaaaa glop auto succeeded on not being detected and not being unearthen. While me trying to do an fa to remove negative mutations unleashed snarl.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:13 am**

Have to worry that most of the options that could be done about Glop could result in Badge either keeping Glop causing trouble or getting a new character, who he probably will turn into Glop II.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:35 am**

Thank you Davecom....for not reading what I said...

As i have stated, Glop is a character who acts like he acts...and suddenly acting differently would have been out of character for him..

New character = new personality...who knows what I'll do with a new character, but acting the same way again would be trolling...I am not a troll

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:09 am**

Davecom3 wrote:Have to worry that most of the options that could be done about Glop could result in Badge either keeping Glop causing trouble or getting a new character, who he probably will turn into Glop II.

Maybe not glop 2 but he will find a way to wreck havac just cause.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:15 am**

We all get new characters soon. The next stage isn't that far off anymore.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:06 am**

Now, burns...a comment like that makes me call you an D-Bag, justifiably so...

I do not seek to wreck havoc...just because....

It just so happened that I did what I did...yes, but you saying that I will do so again and again just because...that is the point in which you become a D-bag

in fact...it reminds me of a time in the Great Grippli War, in which, during the revolution of the Grippli breaking away from the Demon hordes, (aka Drow) and some of the players started saying that they would start a suicide raid against the grippli in which they would keep making new characters (grippli) and then killing themselves...where were the cry of "Troll" then?

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:16 am**

Honestly after all you have done so far it wouldn't surprise me if you would. And i dont know about last civ after i left. That civ was a mess to begin with.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:20 am**

no no, not the last one, number 5...

burns...can we make a truce...?

edit: This was what I was referring to.

kida wrote:
madmartin26 wrote:LAYF, how is Diramanth unoriginal? I agree that if he was Drizzt then that would be pretty stupid, but I think that any race can be good or can be evil, as long as there is a reason, and Diramanth has a pretty detailed backstory explaining why he's at least not evil. Also, because of this i have no problem with the idea of an evil pony, the reasons i'm annoyed are:

1) Dark Dash is turning from completely good to completely evil in an instant because it's dark down here, Which is a pretty weak reason.

2) You are taking some of my most powerful allies and turning them against me, and now it's happened twice. If you were playing an evil pony that had gone mad down here and only just now found us i would be far less annoyed.

3) The exact same thing has already happened. I know it was your idea at first, but that doesn't make it better when two characters who are almost identical appear one after the other.

tl;dr If your evil pony came from somewhere else, with a backstory that explained why the were evil, then i would be sad to have another enemy, but i would have no real problem with the character itself.

Oh, and Badge: the exp we have was Aegis' idea of a better way to allow us to select the points we put into the aspects, it isn't for upgrading ourselves as individuals, unfortunately.
A lot of players took Gripply who are Neutral or Drow who where all under the chieftess and caused this division.
I would agree it's a good way to kill the resistance - take all the rebels as PCs and suicide one by one

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:53 am**

Yea I am pretty sure he was joking/pointing out the flaws in that plan.

And not until you have proven that you can be trusted. So far I don't trust you because of the actions you have taken.

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