Civilization V: Real Life in the way, calling it quits.

[Borys]

Let's see if I got this right.

Race:
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
3 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
3 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, TTW, Moose, astrosteve)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
4 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
2 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
1 heavy Population Shift (Badge, )
3 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, TTW, burns, astrosteve)
3 Celestial Event (kida, Nolandking, Feytala, )
1 Divinely Boosted (Badge, )
4 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, kida, Feytala, Moose )
2 Technological (burns, Moose)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
3 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, TTW, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
2 Lycanthropy (TTW, Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
1 Celestial Event (LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
3 Underdark Connections(kida, Madmartin26, Davecom3)

[Feytala]

Question : To we have to play the race we vote for as a PC ?

[kida]

Calculating the correct numbers + change in my vote

Race:
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
3 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
4 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, TTW, Moose, astrosteve)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
2 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
1 heavy Population Shift (Badge, )
4 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, TTW, burns, astrosteve)
3 Celestial Event (kida, Nolandking, Feytala, )
1 Divinely Boosted (Badge, )
4 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, kida, Feytala, Moose )
2 Technological (burns, Moose)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
3 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, TTW, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
2 Lycanthropy (TTW, Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
2 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3)

[BadgeAddict]

Changing a few things due to an agreement.

Race:
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
3 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
4 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, TTW, Moose, astrosteve)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
2 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
5 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, TTW, burns, astrosteve, Badge)
3 Celestial Event (kida, Nolandking, Feytala, )
5 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, kida, Feytala, Moose, Badge )
2 Technological (burns, Moose)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
3 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, TTW, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
2 Lycanthropy (TTW, Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
2 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3)

[Aegis J Hyena]

Question : To we have to play the race we vote for as a PC ?

Nope, you can play any race that ends up a part of the beginning tribe.

[Jibjib]

Re: Civilization V: Heart of the Maelstrom: 599.09

Unread postby BadgeAddict ┬╗ Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:08 pm
Changing a few things due to an agreement.

Race:
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
3 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
5 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, TTW, Moose, astrosteve, Jib)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
2 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
5 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, TTW, burns, astrosteve, Badge)
3 Celestial Event (kida, Nolandking, Feytala, )
5 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, kida, Feytala, Moose, Badge )
2 Technological (burns, Moose)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
3 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, TTW, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
2 Lycanthropy (TTW, Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
2 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3)

[Nolandking]

Editing my vote on the tweek

Re: Civilization V: Heart of the Maelstrom: 599.09

Unread postby BadgeAddict ┬╗ Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:08 pm
Changing a few things due to an agreement.

Race:
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
3 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
5 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, TTW, Moose, astrosteve, Jib)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
2 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
4 Lycanthropy (TTW, burns, astrosteve, Badge)
2 Celestial Event (kida, Feytala, )
6 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, kida, Feytala, Moose, Badge, Nolandking, )
2 Technological (burns, Moose)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
4 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, TTW, Nolandking, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
2 Lycanthropy (TTW, Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
2 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3)

[Aegis J Hyena]

Nikohl tweeted to me that she's not votin' to start with, so I'll close the votes maybe in about four or five hours and then move on to the next game month.

[nikohl]

(fyi all: I am totally intending to play, I just don't really need/want to get involved with the who/what/where elements of the game. I'm happy to go with the majority, don't have any strong views one way or the other, and can't really express that via the modicum of tallied votes! Looking forward to the game start )

[Feytala]

Mmmh, turns like this time its totally not what I had in mind... Heh, more of an actual challenge, then. I was inclined to vote for drow, too or give the Centaurs a try (Wemic suit me more with the powers, but the fluff is with the Horses.), but as with the last changes, drow don't seem to become the dominant race, I think I am going with... Goblins ! Call me nostalgic. And, well... How do I put it... I like playing without level adjustment (Don't know if Aegis is putting this into mind).

Also I adjusted a few votes, because I am sad, that Celestial Event doesn't get any love, as I saw that as a Main focus for strong PCs...

The first thing we have to do is to close the underdark connections and kill of the Lycanthroph-plague ]

Ah, one last thing... Because I heard it someway ago somewhere, but can't put it down... What the hell is "My little pony" ?^^┬░

Race:
1 Goblins (Feytala)
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
3 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
5 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, TTW, Moose, astrosteve, Jib)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 Wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
2 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
4 Lycanthropy (TTW, burns, astrosteve, Badge)
2 Celestial Event (kida, Feytala, )
6 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, kida, Feytala, Moose, Badge, Nolandking, )
2 Technological (burns, Moose)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
4 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, TTW, Nolandking, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
2 Lycanthropy (TTW, Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
2 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3)

[BadgeAddict]

do note fey, that you are able to vote for two (2) tweaks.

[Aegis J Hyena]

Fey: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/My_Little_Pon ... Magic_Wiki should answer that.

[ThroughTheWell]

Race:
1 Goblins (Feytala)
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
4 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking, TTW )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
4 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, Moose, astrosteve, Jib)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 Wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
2 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
4 Lycanthropy (TTW, burns, astrosteve, Badge)
3 Celestial Event (kida, Feytala, TTW)
6 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, kida, Feytala, Moose, Badge, Nolandking, )
2 Technological (burns, Moose)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
3 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, Nolandking, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
1 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
3 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3, TTW)

I changed my votes around, again. I really want drow dominant for the extra tweak.

[BadgeAddict]

Race:
1 Goblins (Feytala)
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
4 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking, TTW )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
4 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, Moose, astrosteve, Jib)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 Wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
2 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
3 Lycanthropy (TTW, burns, astrosteve,)
4 Celestial Event (kida, Feytala, TTW, Badge,)
6 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, kida, Feytala, Moose, Badge, Nolandking, )
2 Technological (burns, Moose)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
3 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, Nolandking, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
1 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
3 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3, TTW)

Your actions of leaving the Grippli has saddened me TTW.

[kida]

I also changed my votes.
It seems we'll have many in-tribes fights: Drows & goblins persecute poor ponies. Centaur & Wemics fighting each others.

Race:
1 Goblins (Feytala)
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
4 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking, TTW )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
4 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, Moose, astrosteve, Jib)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 Wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
2 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
3 Lycanthropy (TTW, burns, astrosteve,)
4 Celestial Event (kida, Feytala, TTW, Badge,)
5 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, Feytala, Moose, Badge, Nolandking, )
2 Technological (burns, Moose)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
4 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, Nolandking,kida, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
1 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
3 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3, TTW)

[Aegis J Hyena]

Re your PM, ThroughTheWell... I may have to --- some internet idiots from a rival internet company are messing with the kludge fix my internet company did to set me up with internet in order to set someone ELSE up with internet --- I might get knocked offline for multiple days if they keep flat out backtalking my internet company like they're doing. AND my landlord is acting VERY VERY weird. However I won't wait forever.

ETA: I -was- going to end the voting in about two hours, but I'll stretch it a bit longer. Let's say... voting ends at 6 PM Eastern (it's 1:10 PM here now).

[SeeAMoose]

If we get an extra tweak for being drow I suppose I'll change my vote (although I think Grippli could be awesome).

[ThroughTheWell]

The way I thought the race vote worked, was that all of the races chosen get into the starting tribe in proportion to their total votes / all the race votes. So all I'm asking for race wise is that drow have a the highest proportion. Gripipli looks like it is still coming in 2nd and will still be 'playable'.

From the first post in the thread:

The tribe will be made up of the percentages of the votes, so if there's 10 votes and seven vote goblins and three vote Orcs, then the tribe is made up of 70% goblins and 30% Orcs.

Currently there are 13 race votes. 1/13 = 7.7% 3/13 = 23% 4/13 = 30.7% 5/13 = 38%

[ttwig]

also changed my votes.
It seems we'll have many in-tribes fights: Drows & goblins persecute poor ponies. Centaur & Wemics fighting each others.

Race:
1 Goblins (Feytala)
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
4 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking, TTW )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
5 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, Moose, astrosteve, Jib, ttwig)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 Wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
3 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida, ttwig )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
3 Lycanthropy (TTW, burns, astrosteve,)
4 Celestial Event (kida, Feytala, TTW, Badge,)
5 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, Feytala, Moose, Badge, Nolandking, )
3 Technological (burns, Moose, ttwig)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
4 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, Nolandking,kida, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
1 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
4 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3, TTW, ttwig)

[ThroughTheWell]

ttwig, you get a 2nd tweak vote. And the "extra" tweek vote will only be valid if the drow are dominant.

14 race votes currently: 1/14 = 7% 4/14 = 28% 5/14 = 35.7%

[astrosteve]

Apparently, we can vote for two tweaks and I didn't realize that, so I'm adding in my extra tweak vote and changing my race vote.

Race:
1 Goblins (Feytala)
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
5 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking, TTW, astrosteve )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
5 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, Moose, Jib, ttwig)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 Wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
3 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida, ttwig )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
3 Lycanthropy (TTW, burns, astrosteve,)
4 Celestial Event (kida, Feytala, TTW, Badge,)
6 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, Feytala, Moose, Badge, Nolandking, astrosteve)
3 Technological (burns, Moose, ttwig)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
4 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, Nolandking,kida, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
1 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
4 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3, TTW, ttwig)

[madmartin26]

Seeamoose, you can play as a race as long as at least one person votes for it(Because then there are at least a few of them in the tribe), so between Drow and Grippli, it's pretty much a choice of which benefits you want, so if you want the extra tweak you can vote for drow and still play as a Grippli. No, i'm not biased at all~

[BadgeAddict]

TTW, technically, grippli and Drow are at a tie, meaning that (depending on a die roll) either one of them could come in as the dominant race with the other holding a close second. Technically this is not true, because i was trusting people could do math.

[ThroughTheWell]

Race:
1 Goblins (Feytala)
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
5 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking, TTW, astrosteve, )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
4 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, Moose, Jib, ttwig)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 Wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
3 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida, ttwig )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
3 Lycanthropy (TTW, burns, astrosteve, )
4 Celestial Event (kida, Feytala, TTW, Badge, )
6 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, Feytala, Moose, Badge, Nolandking, astrosteve)
3 Technological (burns, Moose, ttwig)
1 Mysterious Benefactor (Madmartin26, )
4 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, Nolandking, kida, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
1 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
4 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3, TTW, ttwig, )


I corrected a total to avoid confusion.

[madmartin26]

Race:
1 Goblins (Feytala)
1 Lizard Stallions: (Borys, )
5 Drow: (madmartin, LAYF, Nolandking, TTW, astrosteve, )
1 Ponies: (kida, )
4 Grippi: (Badgeaddict, Moose, Jib, ttwig)
1 Centaur: (burns, )
1 Wemic: (Davecom3)

General Location: (based on the above info, come up with whatever you want)
1 Ruins of an ancient civilization, scarred by war (Feytala)
6 Floating Islands in the sky: (Badgeaddict, Nolandking, burns, TTW, astrosteve, Borys )
1 Moderately sized island, or chain of islands (madmartin, )
3 Cave system on the edge between a rain-forest/dessert (LAYF, kida, ttwig )
1 Cave near Rain Forest (Moose)

Tweaks:
4 Lycanthropy (TTW, burns, astrosteve, Madmartin26)
4 Celestial Event (kida, Feytala, TTW, Badge, )
6 Arcanely Boosted (LAYF, Feytala, Moose, Badge, Nolandking, astrosteve)
3 Technological (burns, Moose, ttwig)
0 Mysterious Benefactor ()
4 Underdark Connections(Madmartin26, LAYF, Nolandking, kida, )
1 Magic Zone (Davecom3)
1 Resource Source(Davecom3)

**Extra tweek vote If Drow becomes the dominate race is:
1 Lycanthropy (Nolandking, )
2 Distressingly Furry (Badge, Feytala, )
3 Celestial Event (kida, LAYF, astrosteve)
1 Technological (Burns, )
4 Underdark Connections( Madmartin26, Davecom3, TTW, ttwig, )

Switching my vote from mysterious benefactor to lycanthropy, because nobody likes mysterious benefactor, apparently. *Shrug*