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Everything that has happened since then happened inside the Maze of Many. It's supposedly located outside of normal time. I have no idea what if anything that means for the playtime of other PC's, but my best guess is that it's not them. Not just because of them being level 3, but because we've seen them with two characters each and they acted pretty much the same way. Idle is too clever, normal and non-meta in her conversations to be one of them. What's the point in bringing back characters if they're going to be completely different people and not have any links to the past?

I am expecting those people to return in some way, it doesn't sound like Thunt to plan the entire comic up to who knows what level out beforehand and then give some characters such a non-ending (not even an "that's it, I'm done with this game" as their dying words). But I don't think they'll be coming back as main characters, rather they might have some fun way to wrap their arc up. And you're right, Yodette could still be alive. But that would require her to have some special attribute which will become important in fighting junior, which seems unlikely, or to have been saved by someone else, in which case I really don't know where her character would go from there. So I'm still writing her off, personally.

The Maze supposedly takes no "real" time. They exited immediately after they entered. Of course by that time they had messed with the innards pretty extensively, but if there were some sort of change I suspect we might have heard of it.

What we don't know how the death of Puck and Baka/Dies timeline lines up to the FMK/GAP timeline. I know people tried to work it out, but there's an awful lot of room for "they walked for a while." So if you move Dies back in time relative to FMK, you can give Puck and Baka enough time to roll new characters.

As for Yodette, if she's alive I'd guess it was Junior's fault. He needs a blood supply. She's got nice gloves. She's more sympatico than Dies. Anyhow I've given up outthinking Thunt. I wouldn't at all shocked if he thought up something completely logical and hinted at clearly in book one but which I've never even considered.

ForgetsOldName wrote: As for Yodette, if she's alive I'd guess it was Junior's fault. He needs a blood supply. She's got nice gloves. She's more sympatico than Dies.

You mean, Junior using her as a living blood bag? I'd never considered that. I guess he doesn't need to kill her since Baka's torn in half right behind him, he could just stick some spikes out and nom away.

ForgetsOldName wrote:The Maze supposedly takes no "real" time. They exited immediately after they entered. Of course by that time they had messed with the innards pretty extensively, but if there were some sort of change I suspect we might have heard of it.

We don't know that.
We only know that the loosers get reset to the time they entered....

I'd thought we did know that, but now I can't recall... I feel like I've been in this conversation before though...

I was of the opinion once tooo.
But Kin does not tell so, and if you get out at the time you enter (not using a magical teapot), then if you'd eneterd as first one, the last teammember would see you getting out again....
So I assume that the winner's timeline is not altered again, so that his memory does not need to be edited....

But I've not heard or read from Thunt what the mechanics are in this regard, so I cannot really say...

I just went back and read her bit on it, and she says the reset and erasure of time for the losers happens after the winners depart.... so if the case is that the winners actually do spend time in there, equal to the time of their run, then the Kins may be running multiple resets to gain levels, and when she eventually does emerge, it could have ALREADY happened, or could happen at any time in the future (depending on how much time she spends in maze on her last run), or since the Maze is 'broken' now, each run could have real world duration, so even though she is resetting potentially multiple times, things are progressing at the same rate relative to her on the outside. She might not emerge until Minmax is an old man, and still be the same age she was when she went in (plus a few hours).

Indeed, we won't know until Herbert might tell us.
Since the whole MoM is outside of time in its very own time-nook, anything is possible...

Yodettee also has the access to Junior's weakness, magic. She is a cleric (or is it sorcerress?) after all. I bet even with a cantrip or a turn undead would make him hurt with pain.

I don't think its weakness is simply "magic." It was only that specific magic energy in the Key of Darkness, Orb of Bloodlight, Dies' new arm, presumably other limbs restored by the orb, and possibly other things. We've seen Dies touch other magic things and be OK, like in that red and blue room or earlier with the egg - he was less OK there but it wasn't because of the arm. It's possible it's clerical healing, restoration magic, positive energy, or something else Yodette might have access to, but that much we don't know.

When you write books, you start thinking things like "Why didn't Thunt show Yvette dying? It can't be an aversion to gore."
When you write horror books, that's when you start thinking of a headless torso, ribbed splayed to make more room for the enormous heart and massive lungs, held up by herculean limbs criss-crossed by thick blue veins pulsing with life...

Zathyr wrote:I don't think its weakness is simply "magic." It was only that specific magic energy in the Key of Darkness, Orb of Bloodlight, Dies' new arm, presumably other limbs restored by the orb, and possibly other things. We've seen Dies touch other magic things and be OK, like in that red and blue room or earlier with the egg - he was less OK there but it wasn't because of the arm. It's possible it's clerical healing, restoration magic, positive energy, or something else Yodette might have access to, but that much we don't know.

I think it was any magic that radiated an ime. Casting spells would fall in this category, while the egg does not. Or maybe it was just the ime it is weak to.

Anyone else in awe of the rendering of smoke from Idle's pipe? I have never seen such realistic detail in cartoon or comic art format; almost too real in this context.