July 6, 2013 With math!

[catchesafish]

http://www.goblinscomic.org/
New update

Alright, that sounds like a lot of fun.

[SirButcher]

Damn, you beat me

I just deleted the cookies for my project, and had to login again

And yay for Goldmax - maybe he will save the day

Kins cute as always ^^

Altought they nude picture burned into my mind O.o

[arkayn]

Link to comic.

http://www.goblinscomic.org/07062013-2/

[Belzera]

So Goldiemax is going to be the lucky fool who gets to try and topple Psimax.

[LAYF]

okay.. I LOVE that smile when the two Kin's realize that Math is the answer... that's gold...

[catchesafish]

I wonder if our minmax will get pissed that he didn't save the day.

[LAYF]

*catchesafish
I deleted your other thread since this one was older and had more replies...

[SamWiser]

Awesome update. Also, the clock seems to be working well.

[WearsHats]

Oh man, this page is so delightfully geeky. It fills me with glee. And nostalgia for my college days, even if they weren't exactly like that, seeing that shared moment of grinning over the awesomeness of math and getting to do something awesome with it and sharing that with someone who gets it... I'm still basking.

But I do wonder why they don't set it to the number on our FMK's counter. That should work, no?

Or, you know, maybe BlondeMax will save the day. Can't wait to find out!

(Geez. It took three or four tries to post this. Every time I hit the button someone else had made a reply that the boards wanted me to review. And that's after I had to delete the original copy of this post because this thread didn't exist when I wrote the first draft of this post. Sheesh. Flood of excited fans here. It's a good thing.)

[Arrow]

Too bad Goldiemax isn't brave - he ran away when his demon was sent to hell http://www.goblinscomic.org/04102012/
so I don't think he will attack Psymax after seeing what happened to the previous alts who tried.

Maybe if the kins will send him a message that he is psymax's weakness he will be persuaded to attack.

[RJJ7]

But I do wonder why they don't set it to the number on our FMK's counter. That should work, no?

EDIT: Nvm, misunderstood your statement. It's possible that at this point they don't remember the precise number on their counter. I know that I don't.

My thought for this page: Use good variable names in your code (and be sure to leave it well commented )

EDIT2: Rereading the page, I think that the last panel would be better if it didn't have any dialogue in it at all.

[Zambee]

Haha, there's so much to love about this page
The expression on Saphires' face, Forgath attempting to make a contribution even though he's got very little chance of being useful there, Saphire saying "He'd chew him up like a Mouse!" and a whopping gold star to everyone who guessed that GoldMax would have a bigger part to play!

After all this, I'd like to see a spin-off comic following the adventures of the 3 kins after they save the day and change the rules to allow them to adventure together in one of the alt realities. It'll probably never happen with THunt's work load, but I'll keep my fingers crossed just in case.

Also, the 4 Kins should get some bonus XP for saving the universe with Math. That's gotta be worth something!

[Liesmith]

EDIT2: Rereading the page, I think that the last panel would be better if it didn't have any dialogue in it at all.

If Tarol did that, the forums would melt with people arguing and theorizing about it.


EDIT: And I love one of the Kins saying "He'd chew him up like a mouse!" It's a nice little idiom for them to have.

[Operator]

Story-wise, it just doesn't make sense that Goldmax would be the one to kill Psimax. There's too much at stake in the PM-MM relationship to throw it away like that. We see, several panels earlier, that MM draws his sword, so we know there's probably some kind of combat reason. My working hypothesis is that Goldmax will find a way to distract Psimax, but will--in some unspecified manner--be defeated. But, the Kins' plan will work such that his defeat will probably occur without Splishk-ing, which will distract Psimax just long enough for our Minmax to gut him like a fish.

[DuIstalri]

Yeah, Goldmax is probably going to die. Being personally immune to Psimax's powers doesn't mean he won't kill you - he could levitate a boulder and throw it at him, or make the ground below Goldmax turn into a puddle... indirect attacks are just as deadly as direct ones.

[Orangebottle]

But I do wonder why they don't set it to the number on our FMK's counter. That should work, no?

How would you attack PsiMax in a way directly related to the number on the counter? Answer: you can't.
Sure, this is the 1,982,771st time Reality 156 has entered the maze. Not only is that a large number that's hard to remember, but it's not direct enough to what they need. What they need is a direct reference to a specific Minmax, so that he can be PsiMax's weakness.
On the other hand, Goldmax is the 38th Minmax in the maze of many.

Furthermore, lower numbers are easier to calculate with if they mess something up.

[Happy Demon]

Oh, hey it's the fluffy spider again, yay.
I thought it had gone crawling over Forgath, but turns out it's just on the Onyx Kin's tail.

[Byzantine2]

Too bad Goldiemax isn't brave - he ran away when his demon was sent to hell http://www.goblinscomic.org/04102012/
so I don't think he will attack Psymax after seeing what happened to the previous alts who tried.

Maybe if the kins will send him a message that he is psymax's weakness he will be persuaded to attack.

They would likely do that message sending thing again to tell him he's now immune.

Anyone care to guess why a prime number would end... badly?

[notimportant]

Ah. See, I'm not sure Minmax #38 wants to kill PsiMax. He's got nothing good waiting for him in the afterlife, which is where he will end up eventually... Maybe he would prefer PsiMax's oblivion?

Then again, it's a Minmax so maybe he doesn't plan that far. Or maybe he's just waiting for the reset to (maybe?) get his demon back, but doesn't want to die too much earlier than the reset happens.

[WearsHats]

But I do wonder why they don't set it to the number on our FMK's counter. That should work, no?

How would you attack PsiMax in a way directly related to the number on the counter? Answer: you can't.
Sure, this is the 1,982,771st time Reality 156 has entered the maze. Not only is that a large number that's hard to remember, but it's not direct enough to what they need. What they need is a direct reference to a specific Minmax, so that he can be PsiMax's weakness.
On the other hand, Goldmax is the 38th Minmax in the maze of many.

Furthermore, lower numbers are easier to calculate with if they mess something up.

You're talking like this is a real thing with mechanics that can actually be understood by the readers. We have no idea what manipulating the calculations would look like, whether it would be any different for a larger number or a smaller one. Especially since the number they're substituting it for is in the billions. We can't even see the math, let alone understand it.

Furthermore, 1,982,771 does uniquely identify our FMK as much as 156. I don't see how "an individual from reality arbitrarily designated by the Maze as 156" is any more or less direct than "an individual who is currently on his 1,982,771st run through the Maze." I don't see any reason Psimax would be less vulnerable to being attacked by the one rather than the other.

[Orzahn]

Wouldn't age work? I'm guessing that within the maze of many most universes have a similar way of attributing age to persons. It would even work when years are of different length, since that concept "years define a persons age" is pretty constant. other than that, they are talking about weaknesses, it doesn't have to be a numerical factor. it just has to be representable within psimax's machine. and colors tned to be a pretty universal contstant aswell. just turn his weakness into whatever. (for example blue ) and brpadcast hit through the kintercom.

[T-RexWithTourettes]

Nice try Forgath I wonder why Thunt doesn't use metric? Since he's Canadian?
I loved the save the universe with math panels and how the golden bald turd will have his chance at redemption.
Kin is taking the loss of her tail like a real Roak orc. Biscuit'd be so proud.

[SamWiser]

Wouldn't age work? I'm guessing that within the maze of many most universes have a similar way of attributing age to persons. It would even work when years are of different length, since that concept "years define a persons age" is pretty constant. other than that, they are talking about weaknesses, it doesn't have to be a numerical factor. it just has to be representable within psimax's machine. and colors tned to be a pretty universal contstant aswell. just turn his weakness into whatever. (for example blue ) and brpadcast hit through the kintercom.

I think that Kintercom was the best part of that post. The rest of the comment was cool and all, but Kintercom was the best part. I will use that daily from now on.

[Moroser]

Furthermore, 1,982,771 does uniquely identify our FMK as much as 156. I don't see how "an individual from reality arbitrarily designated by the Maze as 156" is any more or less direct than "an individual who is currently on his 1,982,771st run through the Maze." I don't see any reason Psimax would be less vulnerable to being attacked by the one rather than the other.

The first number is a counter (and there is a chance of some other alt-verse being at the same counter stand, so it's not unique), the second one is a constant, which is usually easier to handle.

Wouldn't age work? I'm guessing that within the maze of many most universes have a similar way of attributing age to persons. It would even work when years are of different length, since that concept "years define a persons age" is pretty constant. other than that, they are talking about weaknesses, it doesn't have to be a numerical factor. it just has to be representable within psimax's machine. and colors tned to be a pretty universal contstant aswell. just turn his weakness into whatever. (for example blue ) and brpadcast hit through the kintercom.

The universe number is a kind of a local parameter, the attributes like age, height etc. are something brought from the outside, so they are probably harder to handle.
A colour is probably something too common - just like the number "1" one of the Kins suggested - or like you said not representable .

Thinking of the Maze and PsiMax's machine like of programs makes Kin's discussion pretty logical.

[Liesmith]

Why don't they just comment out the line that translates his weaknesses to a number? Then he'd just be a regular psionic douche, instead of a super psionic douche.