21 Nov. 2024 - Ker-Splashhh

[Krulle]

New update!

https://www.goblinscomic.com/comic/page-16-2024

This one is not a second half of previous comic as feared by some (including myself). (It was a good observation of the page, and I personally agree with Writes-Critically, that the page 15 of 2024 does looks nearly like half-a-page only...)

And now I wonder how it can be that so many survived Junior passing the town...

[RocketScientist]

And now I wonder how it can be that so many survived Junior passing the town...

I wonder that, too.

I don't see how we can plausibly get away from all these people.

[Generic]

And now I wonder how it can be that so many survived Junior passing the town...

I wonder that, too.

I don't see how we can plausibly get away from all these people.

It is gonna have to be resolved with murder. That or running away. Diplomacy is kind of out the window now that Kill-Orc killed a guy clean in half.

Remind me why the adventurer group is here again?

But as for all the people surviving: I imagine these people running around are from a nearby town and has gone here to help.

[Krulle]

With the blood still fresh, I would assume it's the same night.

If there are neighbours coming, it would be to join the festive parties.
Hence likely without weapons, imo.

It just doesn't fit entirely in my opinion, but I assume we will receive an explanation soon.

[Writes-critically]

I don't know if this page was always meant to be a regular one or was the second half of the big panel skipped but if we won't see the other side of the combat scene from previous page then it will be made to look even worse retroactively, becuase then there will be no excuse for the pisspoor framing. Everyone just floating in the air in the lower right part of the picture. How do images like that happen after so many years of this comic being drawn?
To think, if there was some kind of editor, someone supervising this comic, not only would such fumbles not happen, but more importantly we probably would have been done with it by now. A coherent story would be done and complete to the end...

[Generic]

With the blood still fresh, I would assume it's the same night.

If there are neighbours coming, it would be to join the festive parties.
Hence likely without weapons, imo.

It just doesn't fit entirely in my opinion, but I assume we will receive an explanation soon.

Villages could easily be 5-6 km apart, in particular along rivers. Someone could have rode for help, who arrived on foot, armed, in about two hours.

We're likely not finding out however.

[Generic]

I don't know if this page was always meant to be a regular one or was the second half of the big panel skipped but if we won't see the other side of the combat scene from previous page then it will be made to look even worse retroactively, becuase then there will be no excuse for the pisspoor framing. Everyone just floating in the air in the lower right part of the picture. How do images like that happen after so many years of this comic being drawn?
To think, if there was some kind of editor, someone supervising this comic, not only would such fumbles not happen, but more importantly we probably would have been done with it by now. A coherent story would be done and complete to the end...

Good point. It has gotten worse. My guess is that her wife used to give her a lot of feedback previously.

[BiggestBlackest]

Pretty incoherent page, unfortunately. Just very confusing spatially, and I’m not inclined to work to figure it out because I don’t care about any of the things happening. Slaughtering a bunch of scared violent NPCs isn’t that fun, I’m not worried for these characters, and they have no goal which they’re prevented from achieving by this conflict.

Elli has another GoFundMe up; I believe that’s three this year, though I may be forgetting one.

I’m officially worried about her. Does she have anyone in her life to confront her with how unsustainable this is? Does she have any way to get on top of her financial situation? I am skeptical that a donation-driven Button Battles will make enough of a difference. Isolated in a remote cabin with a partner who has even fewer local connections, burning through credit and repeatedly finding herself without rent - not good!

[samharbor]

Pretty incoherent page, unfortunately. Just very confusing spatially, and I’m not inclined to work to figure it out because I don’t care about any of the things happening. Slaughtering a bunch of scared violent NPCs isn’t that fun, I’m not worried for these characters, and they have no goal which they’re prevented from achieving by this conflict.

Elli has another GoFundMe up; I believe that’s three this year, though I may be forgetting one.

I’m officially worried about her. Does she have anyone in her life to confront her with how unsustainable this is? Does she have any way to get on top of her financial situation? I am skeptical that a donation-driven Button Battles will make enough of a difference. Isolated in a remote cabin with a partner who has even fewer local connections, burning through credit and repeatedly finding herself without rent - not good!

I am certainly concerned. This isn't "oh a tree fell on my roof" or "my car is broken" or "I have a medical issue" this is just yet another "I just don't have money for rent." And why is that anyone else's fault but hers at this point?

She is not some fresh young doe-eyed kid who doesn't know better. She's not naive to her financial situation. If she isn't making enough money to cover her livelihood, well, maybe she should think about getting a job like the rest of us, because CLEARLY this whole full-time webcomic artist thing just hasn't been working out for her. She's at the age where people should be counting how much longer until they'll be ready for retirement, when she's having quarterly gofundme's to cover rent while she splurges through her mid-life crisis as a cat girl for her 20-something polycule roommates.

How many Gofundmes has it been this year? How many has it been in the webcomic's lifespan? How many crowdfunded projects have we been milked out of and how many times have we been repaid what we were promised? No Tempts Fate, no comic schedule, no games, no animation, and now she wants us to crowdfund her "getting better in the future" but that sure as hell sounds like one more check she can't cash.

How much longer can we, as fans, be expected to put up with being asked time and again to support her downward spiral, when she doesn't seem to be showing any interest in making the changes necessary in her unstable life to get her out of this pit she's in? Does she not have any respect for us? For herself?

[RocketScientist]

Maybe she doesn't think she could get a job? IDK. Her situation does seem pretty dire.

I don't know who is in her life other than her girlfriend. She must be pretty dedicated to Elli, to up and move countries for a partner who was jobless and homeless at the time. Maybe she'll help her get things sorted?

I wish her luck, anyway. She'll need it.

[Generic]

Where are we at? Is my perception of the most recent history correct?

This happened before, but is relevant:
Ellipsis asked for money for deposit or part of a mortage for a house. She got money.

Then she got divorced and ended up without half a house?

On to most recent events

She then asked for money to move. She got money.

She traveled to Alabama?

Somewhere around here she asked for money due to increased expenses? Being homeless? Do I misremember?

Money was spent.

Then she returned. (she might have asked for money to fix the car, I can not remember) She rented a air-bnb.

Now she is asking for money to... What is the reason? Like, living expenses?

Elli is homeless and unemployed, right? I think I remember the little forest shack ALSO being a air-bnb, or is she renting more permanently? Regardless, rent is due, and money has runt out. This situation is pretty darn dire just there. Does she have any more problems we know of?


This might be a good time to put Goblins to a halt and get just about any job. Because she clearly does not like doing this. Do we know of her plan? Does she have any?

[Writes-critically]

I think the plan was to roleplay a "princess blanket" irl for at least a while, where wrapping oneself in their own delusions will form a shield from the harsh conditions of reality. But that's not how life works, people got to work in order to have money, we can't just rely on generosity of others all the time. I mean, maybe some great artist could, provided that they would supply the public with some incredible pieces of art but cmon, the Goblins comic is far from that. Not to mention all of the broken promises like games or animations.

[Generic]

I forgot about princess blanket! Thanks for reminding me!

Well, coping mechanisms are fine and all. I have some myself. I mainly use them to put up with the daily slog I suffer through to have a roof over my head and food on my plate however.

What kind of social security net does Canada have? There should be some, right? This seems like a good time to apply for some.

[BiggestBlackest]

January 2024: https://www.gofundme.com/f/elli-is-now- ... needs-help

July 2024: https://www.gofundme.com/f/ellis-life-i ... ng-coolant

Current: https://www.gofundme.com/f/things-are-k ... ling-apart

I believe the most recent one before 2024 was the tablet fundraiser from 2022: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-elli-ge ... ing-tablet
but I may have missed one.

I believe the order of events was: after the split with her wife, Ellipsis sought money for a home. That money seems to have paid for her to live and travel to Alabama where she stayed with her now-girlfriend, find the place she now rents, and start heading back to Canada. They broke down along the way, and needed another fundraiser to fix the van twice. I could easily be getting some part of that wrong, so take it with a grain of salt.
I’m not aware of any outside act that would have precipitated the current need for money, so I assume they just don’t make enough to afford the place. I don’t know what her girlfriend does for a living, if anything.

I’d like to echo what someone else said: she clearly doesn’t like making Goblins any more! My heart goes out to her: this was a passion when she was a VERY DIFFERENT PERSON, and she’s now experiencing (what I’d very not-professionally call) a combination of midlife and adolescence in a new sexuality. She likely doesn’t know what else she COULD do, and has a lot of (reasonable!) anxiety about engaging with a new career as a trans woman with not a lot of recent stuff on her resume. But… what’s the alternative?

Finally, just to get it all out there: her partner is, uh, young. Quite young. Whatever, I have feelings about that, but relevant to this point - is she going to help Elli navigate this reality? Or is she a blanket for her?

This is all very far from talking about the comic I know, but like, for real, does anyone think that this comic will be finished? At this pace, with this many digressions, with this sort of reluctance on the part of the creator? It’s a bummer because there were parts of this story that I really liked and it would be good to see them resolved, but this feels like an artifact from a different time, and I’m not sure it’s good for the person making it any more.

[RocketScientist]

I guess if they're in an Air-BnB, that would explain how they managed to get approved for a place with no regular income. I wonder how winterized it is. Canada is not known for warm winters.

Out of curiosity, do we know if her kids are still in her life? I don't remember hearing anything about them in years, so maybe they're not. If they are, I just wonder how they feel about the whole situation. I'm not even sure how old they'd be by now.

Does anybody go into her Discord? I wonder what they're saying over there.

FWIW, as long as this doesn't turn from a concern thread into an attack thread, I don't have a problem with Elli's situation being discussed. If people would feel more comfortable, I can split this part out into its own thread. So let me know if anybody wants to do that.

[samharbor]

I guess if they're in an Air-BnB, that would explain how they managed to get approved for a place with no regular income. I wonder how winterized it is. Canada is not known for warm winters.

Out of curiosity, do we know if her kids are still in her life? I don't remember hearing anything about them in years, so maybe they're not. If they are, I just wonder how they feel about the whole situation. I'm not even sure how old they'd be by now.

Does anybody go into her Discord? I wonder what they're saying over there.

FWIW, as long as this doesn't turn from a concern thread into an attack thread, I don't have a problem with Elli's situation being discussed. If people would feel more comfortable, I can split this part out into its own thread. So let me know if anybody wants to do that.

I appreciate your flexibility. I'm just really frustrated and concerned and outright frightened for her right now.
I believe her kids would have to be in their mid 20s at least by this point. I remember they were at least teenagers when she was trying to conceive a child years ago, and I did notice it seemed like she stopped discussing the grown children she already had and could only focus on how hard it was to not make a new baby with her new spouse.

I'm honestly not sure who, if anyone, from her past is still in communication with her. Whether that's her exes, her children, for quite some time she was really close to her mom, but that was close to 10 years ago. It's so scary to think how isolated she's made herself from anyone IRL who she could reach out to for support in any form other than PayPal donations online.

I don't have ideas or suggestions, I guess I'm just thinking aloud. It's para social, I know, but when you follow someone for close to 20 years, it's hard to watch them struggle like this and feel like there's nothing left you can do.

[Generic]

I guess if they're in an Air-BnB, that would explain how they managed to get approved for a place with no regular income. I wonder how winterized it is. Canada is not known for warm winters..

Please do not rely on my guesswork and funky memory about the rental. It was a limited time contract, and it's a cottage. The RV was an air-bnb.

[BiggestBlackest]

FWIW, as long as this doesn't turn from a concern thread into an attack thread, I don't have a problem with Elli's situation being discussed. If people would feel more comfortable, I can split this part out into its own thread. So let me know if anybody wants to do that.

Good, thanks for saying that.

FWIW, I would suggest not splitting off a thread. It’s nice to talk about this on a single update post; a thread dedicated to ‘is Elli doing ok’ seems like it would attract trolls.

[RocketScientist]

I guess if they're in an Air-BnB, that would explain how they managed to get approved for a place with no regular income. I wonder how winterized it is. Canada is not known for warm winters..

Please do not rely on my guesswork and funky memory about the rental. It was a limited time contract, and it's a cottage. The RV was an air-bnb.

No worries. I just couldn't figure out how anybody would give them a rental contract if they don't have sufficient income to cover it. Air-Bnb is a possibility. Or it could be a camp-like situation, I suppose. Either would explain her credit cards being maxed out, too, if she's been paying their rent on her credit cards. All pure speculation, of course. None of us have any way of knowing unless she says something.

[Generic]

I guess if they're in an Air-BnB, that would explain how they managed to get approved for a place with no regular income. I wonder how winterized it is. Canada is not known for warm winters..

Please do not rely on my guesswork and funky memory about the rental. It was a limited time contract, and it's a cottage. The RV was an air-bnb.

No worries. I just couldn't figure out how anybody would give them a rental contract if they don't have sufficient income to cover it. Air-Bnb is a possibility. Or it could be a camp-like situation, I suppose. Either would explain her credit cards being maxed out, too, if she's been paying their rent on her credit cards. All pure speculation, of course. None of us have any way of knowing unless she says something.

That was my impression as well. I dunno how Canadian rental laws work, but over here a "6 month lease of a cabin" is not a permanent residence.

[Krulle]

I think the plan was to roleplay a "princess blanket" irl for at least a while, where wrapping oneself in their own delusions will form a shield from the harsh conditions of reality. But that's not how life works, people got to work in order to have money, we can't just rely on generosity of others all the time. I mean, maybe some great artist could, provided that they would supply the public with some incredible pieces of art but cmon, the Goblins comic is far from that. Not to mention all of the broken promises like games or animations.

Formally, the game Goblins:Alternate Realities and the Goblins-Animated were run by others, not by Ellipsis (which is the main reasons why I had absolutely no interest in joining them).
Also, G:Animated did deliver their promised trailer.
Just no network took up the idea.

I agree nobody should rely on the generosity of others.
And the current gofundme does seem to deliver as hoped for by Elli.
And Elli did provide for quite some entertainment for years for many students, and now some are returning the favour.

But I wonder what would happen if someone expperienced would look at Ellis business plan?
The Ferretcomics guys back then did, and pushed Elli to go for (preferably) three updates a week.

Out of curiosity, do we know if her kids are still in her life? I don't remember hearing anything about them in years, so maybe they're not. If they are, I just wonder how they feel about the whole situation. I'm not even sure how old they'd be by now.

If I remember correctly, Elli never had biological kids anyway, but the "adopted" extra of Danielle.
The kids must be more than old enough now, the last combined posts with Danielle already did not mention the son anymore anyway.

[RocketScientist]

Please do not rely on my guesswork and funky memory about the rental. It was a limited time contract, and it's a cottage. The RV was an air-bnb.

No worries. I just couldn't figure out how anybody would give them a rental contract if they don't have sufficient income to cover it. Air-Bnb is a possibility. Or it could be a camp-like situation, I suppose. Either would explain her credit cards being maxed out, too, if she's been paying their rent on her credit cards. All pure speculation, of course. None of us have any way of knowing unless she says something.

That was my impression as well. I dunno how Canadian rental laws work, but over here a "6 month lease of a cabin" is not a permanent residence.

Yeah, and around here at least, there are a lot of requirements she wouldn't meet to get a permanent residence. You have to be making 3X rent/month, have a down payment of first and last month's rent plus another month in security deposit, and a good credit rating in order to have a landlord even bother with you.

Out of curiosity, do we know if her kids are still in her life? I don't remember hearing anything about them in years, so maybe they're not. If they are, I just wonder how they feel about the whole situation. I'm not even sure how old they'd be by now.

If I remember correctly, Elli never had biological kids anyway, but the "adopted" extra of Danielle.
The kids must be more than old enough now, the last combined posts with Danielle already did not mention the son anymore anyway.

I'm pretty sure her kids were with her first wife -- the one she said was crazy and abusive. I have no idea if they were biologically hers or not, though. I had just assumed that they were.

Meanwhile, I've been reading the Goblins thread over at the Giant in the Playground forums. One person said that this is actually the fifth GoFundMe since January of 2023. And another person said that they "have a sneaking suspicion that the new girlfriend's only income is via OnlyFans (which means she probably has similar or greater equipment costs to Elli and just as little financial security)." Now those are obviously both hearsay. Neither poster backed anything up, so it's just random internet assertions. But I'm even more worried about Elli than before, after reading them. And I thought they might be of interest here.

[samharbor]

I think the plan was to roleplay a "princess blanket" irl for at least a while, where wrapping oneself in their own delusions will form a shield from the harsh conditions of reality. But that's not how life works, people got to work in order to have money, we can't just rely on generosity of others all the time. I mean, maybe some great artist could, provided that they would supply the public with some incredible pieces of art but cmon, the Goblins comic is far from that. Not to mention all of the broken promises like games or animations.

Formally, the game Goblins:Alternate Realities and the Goblins-Animated were run by others, not by Ellipsis (which is the main reasons why I had absolutely no interest in joining them).
Also, G:Animated did deliver their promised trailer.
Just no network took up the idea.

I agree nobody should rely on the generosity of others.
And the current gofundme does seem to deliver as hoped for by Elli.
And Elli did provide for quite some entertainment for years for many students, and now some are returning the favour.

But I wonder what would happen if someone expperienced would look at Ellis business plan?
The Ferretcomics guys back then did, and pushed Elli to go for (preferably) three updates a week.

Out of curiosity, do we know if her kids are still in her life? I don't remember hearing anything about them in years, so maybe they're not. If they are, I just wonder how they feel about the whole situation. I'm not even sure how old they'd be by now.

If I remember correctly, Elli never had biological kids anyway, but the "adopted" extra of Danielle.
The kids must be more than old enough now, the last combined posts with Danielle already did not mention the son anymore anyway.

https://goblinnews.blogspot.com/2010/06 ... e.html?m=1

I just remembered this old blog post from 2010. Elli said she had two sons from a previous relationship, but it sounds like she lost a custody battle over them.

[Krulle]

I'm pretty sure her kids were with her first wife -- the one she said was crazy and abusive. I have no idea if they were biologically hers or not, though. I had just assumed that they were.

Oh jeez, that's older news than I was following. I somewhat started looking at the creator's information only when the "I am with Danielle" news came...

[RocketScientist]

https://goblinnews.blogspot.com/2010/06 ... e.html?m=1

I just remembered this old blog post from 2010. Elli said she had two sons from a previous relationship, but it sounds like she lost a custody battle over them.

Yeah, now that I reread that, I remember when it happened. Elli seems to not do well with conflict and stress. I wonder if she could get some kind of disability payments from the Canadian government for having an anxiety disorder.