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And yes, some feared it.
Another Tempts Fate fundraiser.
Target 6k CAD (Canadian Dollars) - to pay for the wedding and the lawyer for the Canadian Citizenship for her partner.

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If you don't know about the older Tempts Fate fundraisers:
The first (final) image (the comic page got longer and longer with every reached target - later she split the adventures into several pages):
► Show Spoiler
And a link to the WebArchive TF first page, with a next button for the continuation of the "story":
https://web.archive.org/web/20180405043 ... pts-fate-1
Starting with TF7, the readers also had to solve the puzzles as well, not only meet the funding targets...

It's a bit a pity the last ones are out of order. And seemingly incomplete.
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Where is his wonderful belt?

Non-sequiturs are ofc allowed in this fundraiser.


45 minutes in, and we're at 53 CAD.
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Honestly, I could not care less if Tempts Fate died for good. It could also put E. in a funny predicament, since she would not be able to make more comic based fundraisers without being called out on some kind of "remake" shenanigans, which is explicitly stated in the rules.

But then again, I'm still clinging to a forum noone uses aside from some random survivors of the great Discord Exodus.
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Inspired wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 12:54 am But then again, I'm still clinging to a forum noone uses aside from some random survivors of the great Discord Exodus.
oh wow I'm more out of the loop than I thought, what happened in the Discord server?
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I find the entire tempts fate debacle shameful. To try and pull more money out of the readers after the last failure that left a sour taste in everyone's mouth and personally made me dislike any and all of these money fundraisers with a passion. It's holding the community hostage and the promised reward has been compromised with the knowledge that we might not even get the things that are expected. It's stupid.
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I still like the stories of TF better than just a "GoFundMe" without any reward.

And the TF stories showcase Elli's ability of being able to draw faster when she ditches the shading.
And her storytelling. How with some weird abilities she imagines weird effects.

If it is satisfying for her to tell the story, it may also transfer as energy into the GoblinsComic work itself.

We'll see.


But indeed, otherwise I am also careful with financing funders.
I've seen too many money collections go wrong.
Including her Goblins Card Game (where she invested a LOT of time for artwork after it was clear the game failed).

128CAD now
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Caimera wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 2:23 am I find the entire tempts fate debacle shameful. To try and pull more money out of the readers after the last failure that left a sour taste in everyone's mouth and personally made me dislike any and all of these money fundraisers with a passion. It's holding the community hostage and the promised reward has been compromised with the knowledge that we might not even get the things that are expected. It's stupid.
I think that’s uncharitable to the point of untrue. ‘Holding the community hostage’ just isn’t right. If people are giving money to see a goblin beat up monsters they should expect to see the fight, but if they don’t get it that’s just a broken deal, not a hostage situation.

That said: I think the whole thing feels bad and I can’t decide whether Elli getting the money or not getting the money would be worse for her.
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I sincerely love that multiple bsky comments Elli received in the days leading up to this was "hoo boy I really hope this isn't going to be tempts fate, that was a disaster last time .." and "I hope this is an update about the animation!"


Like.. it's just another illustrated gofundme for a wedding party she's gonna blast all the money on at once and be in exactly the same hand to mouth situation afterwards. She's still going to be asking for money three months from now, And there's no way in hell the handful of eccentric fans that shell out 6,000 will get a $6,000 experience with what they get from the pages.

If she doesn't get the money and Tempts dies then what will Elli do then? I'm guessing just not finish the pages and then hide under a blanket
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Krulle wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 11:40 pm Where is his wonderful belt?

Non-sequiturs are ofc allowed in this fundraiser.


45 minutes in, and we're at 53 CAD.
I thought part of the deal with the belt was that he could not lose it? I can't remember, but I think that was the case. Sooo... Guess it's around somewhere?
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I recall some kind of demon eye being attached to him, saying OW with every step
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Writes-critically wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 6:22 am I recall some kind of demon eye being attached to him, saying OW with every step
Yup. Under his foot. Also making him immortal till the demon regrows in a thousand years or whatever.

Wonder what he will look like in another 1000 years, as he clearly has aged here.
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Writes-critically wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 1:30 am
Inspired wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 12:54 am But then again, I'm still clinging to a forum noone uses aside from some random survivors of the great Discord Exodus.
oh wow I'm more out of the loop than I thought, what happened in the Discord server?
Nothing, I just meant that this forum got abandoned (not even a link to it), and the headquarters has been moved to the Discord. We are just straggling old goblins here reminiscing of the "good old days" until Kore or a somewhat capable adventurer party finally wipes us out.

That being said, the first goal is almost already reached, so probably we will see at least 1 new page soon-ish, even though it is TF, not the main comic.
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Generic wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 6:02 am
Krulle wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 11:40 pm Where is his wonderful belt?

Non-sequiturs are ofc allowed in this fundraiser.
I thought part of the deal with the belt was that he could not lose it? I can't remember, but I think that was the case. Sooo... Guess it's around somewhere?
https://web.archive.org/web/20180325193 ... e-5-page-2
The Belt of Soaring Fury exposition
It seems he can take it off, as I see no text about it being permanent...

Generic wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 6:29 am
Writes-critically wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 6:22 am I recall some kind of demon eye being attached to him, saying OW with every step
Yup. Under his foot. Also making him immortal till the demon regrows in a thousand years or whatever.

Wonder what he will look like in another 1000 years, as he clearly has aged here.
https://www.goblinscomic.com/blog/tempts-fate-3 wrote:It's actually really fun to draw him as an older goblin now.
And the demon eye is from Tempts Fate 11, which is incomplete (Elli had a specific Tempts Fate folder for the TF pages):
https://web.archive.org/web/20180102102 ... -11-page-1

page 5: http://goblinscomic.com/comics/14991214 ... _intro.jpg
page 1: http://goblinscomic.com/comics/14991212 ... lenge1.jpg
page 2: http://goblinscomic.com/comics/14991212 ... lenge2.jpg
page ?: https://www.goblinscomic.com/comics/20120117.jpg (this one doesn't appear in the order of the TF comics, it was published in the comics series, luckily I caught it in the transcriptions)
page 3: http://goblinscomic.com/comics/14991213 ... lenge3.jpg


And TF has met his first survival target.

a spoiler for the main comic:
► Show Spoiler
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Krulle wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 11:31 pm
Generic wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 6:02 am
Krulle wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 11:40 pm Where is his wonderful belt?

Non-sequiturs are ofc allowed in this fundraiser.
I thought part of the deal with the belt was that he could not lose it? I can't remember, but I think that was the case. Sooo... Guess it's around somewhere?
https://web.archive.org/web/20180325193 ... e-5-page-2
The Belt of Soaring Fury exposition
It seems he can take it off, as I see no text about it being permanent...

Generic wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 6:29 am
Writes-critically wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 6:22 am I recall some kind of demon eye being attached to him, saying OW with every step
Yup. Under his foot. Also making him immortal till the demon regrows in a thousand years or whatever.

Wonder what he will look like in another 1000 years, as he clearly has aged here.
https://www.goblinscomic.com/blog/tempts-fate-3 wrote:It's actually really fun to draw him as an older goblin now.
And the demon eye is from Tempts Fate 11, which is incomplete (Elli had a specific Tempts Fate folder for the TF pages):
https://web.archive.org/web/20180102102 ... -11-page-1

page 5: http://goblinscomic.com/comics/14991214 ... _intro.jpg
page 1: http://goblinscomic.com/comics/14991212 ... lenge1.jpg
page 2: http://goblinscomic.com/comics/14991212 ... lenge2.jpg
page ?: https://www.goblinscomic.com/comics/20120117.jpg (this one doesn't appear in the order of the TF comics, it was published in the comics series, luckily I caught it in the transcriptions)
page 3: http://goblinscomic.com/comics/14991213 ... lenge3.jpg


And TF has met his first survival target.

a spoiler for the main comic:
► Show Spoiler

I think I remember it by being an extra goal in the collection bar. Where he would get a new magical item he could never lose, and not in the in comic description itself. But, no way to check now. i might very well be mistaken.
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Generic wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 12:43 am I think I remember it by being an extra goal in the collection bar. Where he would get a new magical item he could never lose, and not in the in comic description itself. But, no way to check now. i might very well be mistaken.
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Good memory. I only read it afterwards, as I only started reading GoblinsComic sometime around TF7 or TF8 ?
So ofc I skipped the fundraiser texts a bit.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180325193 ... e-4-page-4
(or image directly: http://goblinscomic.com/comics/14991184 ... Page4d.jpg )

"He will have it with him" is something else than "not losing it" though.
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Krulle wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 3:47 am ...

"He will have it with him" is something else than "not losing it" though.
I'll still bask in the glory of my memory though.
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My guilty pleasure for the Tempts Fate arcs have always been hoping that he dies. Though it's been a clutch way for Elli to raise funds for things in the past and now. Though I will admit I'm still salty about the last Tempts Fate's outcome and the way it turned out among other things.

Between Goblins: alternate realities where the partnered company ran off with the money and didn't deliver on the game, the animation, and everything else I just find it difficult to see Elli once again starting another fundraiser for more support. It feels like there was just one a little bit ago, granted without an accompanying Tempts Fate Arc.

Given the doubling of the donations from an anonymous benefactor Monday night it appears that Tempts will survive this round and I shall be disappointed once again. Hoping that wasn't some kind of contrived way to ensure that Tempts doesn't actually die.

Right when we were getting some pages & progress too for the first time in a long time too it felt like. To each their own though. I can understand those that like the Tempts Fate arcs. Best outcome is that it energizes Elli to work on the comic more.
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Yeah, I am wondering why it seems like she is not working on Goblinscomic in the meantime.
Output pages as normal, and TF should be a "side project".
She's not drawing TF, as she doesn't know the outcome (although by now it is clear, that TF will survive all challenges, she has called for "world breaking levels of victory" if the result in total will be double the original.

Honestly, TF beating everything as easily as he did hell in the last botched one (which delivered the number of pages she should have delivered, but not the outcome of the story), it's also not fun in the sense of "a real challenge you may be able to overcome". Honestly, someone in chains, having been beaten up like that? How can that person suddenly go to beat the captors and (whatever else comes after that)?
The first one were wonderful challenges, where TF had to have an idea of how to beat it all. But now?
He is not Tempts Fate anymore. He is BeatsAllChallengesBlindly.
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Generic wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 3:51 amI'll still bask in the glory of my memory though.
And rightly so.
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I wonder what it is about Elli, Goblins, web comics, and/or the world today that makes it so easy for these occasional donation drives to succeed so grandly - while the ongoing income from the project is insufficient to make a life. I don’t really have a theory, but it’s pretty striking.
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Finally got around to make this list. Enjoy!

TF0: Before Tempts Fate
The first Tempts Fates are read top down, and I presume the image was updated with a new line of panels after the target was met.
TF1: Tempts Fates First Adventure
TF2: Escape from the Troglodytes
TF3: Tempts Fate's Archnemesis

TF4: Realm of Naked, Mudhoney Covered Babes! pages one, two. three, four

TF5: The Belt of Soaring Fury; pages one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, explanatory text

TF6: Tempts Fate vs The MMORPG; pages one, two, three, four, five, explanatory text

TF7: Tempts vs The Four Tests of Shared Dread; pages one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, explanatory text (For TF7, the readers had to participate in solving the puzzles as well.)

TF8: Tempts vs The Really, Really Poorly Made Characters; pages one, two, three, four, five, explanatory text

TF8.5: ; pages one, two, three, four, five, six, (I did not find the explanatory text, so sorry for not being able to name this adventure)

TF9: Tempts Fate vs The Dungeon Crawl that the DM Wrote at the Last Minute; pages one, two, three, four, five, explanatory text (TF9 also included a puzzle for the readers)

TF10: Tempts Fate in Trek of the Blackened Dread; pages one, two, puzzle 2, page three, explanatory text,
puzzle 4, page four, puzzle 5, page five, page six, final donation meter (source: web.archive)

TF11: The Character Sheet of Hell; pages intro, Challenge one, Challenge two, bonus, Challenge three, (and here TF 11 got aborted),
TF11.5: The Search For Tempts Fate: blog, page 1, page 2 (shortly after posting this, Elli officially gave up)
TF11.6: Tempts Fate settling? page 1,page 2 (sources: 1, 2)

TF12: blog entry, page 1, page 2, page 3


Edit: added TF12 pages
Found another page of the "Tempts settling", and ordered it in after TF11
Found more missing pages of TF10 and completed that series.

Thanks to the Internet Archive! (source)


Edit: Elli started to make them available via https://www.goblinscomic.com/tempts-fate/archive again.
There she also published the History of TF (TF0 - a simple donation meter) for the first time.
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Wow, that must have taken a lot of work! Thank you for doing that.
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Mainly clicking through the internet archive. And waiting, as its loading times are slow.

[edit]and rechecking the Internet archive for even better captures[/edit]
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Plasmeus wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 10:46 pm ...
Given the doubling of the donations from an anonymous benefactor Monday night it appears that Tempts will survive this round and I shall be disappointed once again. Hoping that wasn't some kind of contrived way to ensure that Tempts doesn't actually die.
...
Are you suggesting Elli might have invented that donor, and donated the money herself to drum up a sense of extra value and urgency, while ensuring that Tempts Fate remains alive?
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Generic wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 4:22 am Are you suggesting Elli might have invented that donor, and donated the money herself to drum up a sense of extra value and urgency, while ensuring that Tempts Fate remains alive?
This is possible. Honestly, who would drop such a big amount of money for this and anonymously on top of that?
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